Episodes

  • Tara & Rascal: One Trail, One Team. Chasing Time.
    Nov 21 2024

    On this week's Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by ultra-badass Tara Dower and her incredible crew member, Rascal, to talk about Tara's recent Fastest Known Time (FKT) attempt on the Appalachian Trail.

    Tara's journey is nothing short of inspiring. We get into the nitty-gritty of her training, the challenges she faced on the trail, and the mental fortitude it takes to chase such a massive goal.

    Rascal pulls back the curtain on what it's like to support an FKT attempt. From coordinating logistics to providing on-the-ground support, it's a masterclass in teamwork and problem-solving.

    But this isn't just a story about logistics and miles. Tara opens up about the emotional and physical rollercoaster of the FKT, and the lessons she learned along the way. It's a raw and honest look at the highs and lows of chasing a dream.

    Whether you're an aspiring FKT chaser or just love a good adventure story, this episode will leave you fired up and ready to tackle your own challenges.

    In this conversation: Tara Dower, Rascal, David Compton, & Matthew Williams

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Journey

    03:23 Meeting on the Trail

    06:17 Preparing for the FKT

    09:18 Crew Dynamics and Challenges

    12:23 The First Major Hurdle

    15:24 Adjusting to the Demands

    18:19 Logistical Coordination

    21:21 The Role of Support Crew

    28:58 The Importance of Preparation and Equipment

    31:01 Adapting to Challenges During the Journey

    34:31 Mental Resilience in Ultra Running

    36:20 Crew Dynamics and Support

    39:21 Pushing Limits: The Longest Days

    41:55 The Role of Humor and Team Spirit

    49:35 Nutrition and Hydration Strategies

    55:03 Sleep Strategies and Recovery

    57:00 The Final Push: Overcoming the Last Hurdles

    58:32 Pushing Towards the Record

    01:00:59 Emotional Moments Before the Finish

    01:03:37 Celebrating the Journey

    01:06:01 Reflections on the Accomplishment

    01:09:17 Inspiring Others Through Achievement

    01:12:35 Art and Community Impact

    01:14:45 Listener Questions and Insights


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    1 hr and 25 mins
  • The Gratitude Grind: David Sullivan's Ultra Fuel
    Nov 16 2024
    This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we had the pleasure of chatting with ultra runner David Sullivan. David's journey in the ultra world is nothing short of inspiring, and he shared some incredible insights with us. We talked about his evolution from casual runner to podium finisher, and how gratitude and community have played a huge role in his success. David also emphasized the mental side of racing – how important it is to stay focused and resilient when the going gets tough. Of course, we couldn't forget about the physical challenges of ultra running! David dove into the importance of nutrition, hydration, and having a solid support crew, especially in those grueling 100-mile races. But it's not just about crossing the finish line. David opened up about the personal growth that comes with pushing your limits and facing those challenges head-on. Whether you're a seasoned runner or just starting out, David's story is a powerful reminder that we're all capable of achieving incredible things. In this Conversation: David Sullivan, David Compton & Matthew Williams Chapters 00:00 Introduction to David Sullivan 06:06 Gratitude in Ultra Running 12:16 First Race Experiences 17:12 Overcoming Challenges in Racing 22:12 Mental Resilience in Ultra Running 27:42 The Race Experience: Fun vs. Competition 32:53 First 100-Mile Race: Overcoming Intimidation 41:12 The Mindset of Racing: Control and Commitment 51:04 Memorable Race Moments: Weather and Community 58:51 Training Philosophy and Mindset 01:05:47 Fueling Strategies and Nutrition 01:11:18 The Emotional Journey of Racing 01:17:49 Finding Your Why in Running 01:26:01 The Joy of Racing 01:32:44 Personal Running Journeys and Family Involvement
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    1 hr and 48 mins
  • Ron Wireman: No Finish Line in Sight
    Nov 12 2024

    This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we sat down with ultra runner Ron Wireman. Ron's no stranger to pushing limits, and he shared some incredible stories from his experiences at Bob's Backyard Ultra and Big's Backyard Ultra.

    We dove deep into the nitty-gritty of backyard ultras, from the unique challenges they present to the incredible camaraderie among runners. Ron opened up about his training, race day strategies, and how he fuels himself to keep going.

    But it's not just about the physical stuff. Ron got real about the mental battles he faced during those races – the grit and determination it takes to overcome pain and keep pushing forward. He also talked about the importance of teamwork and support in the ultra world, and how those bonds help runners achieve the impossible.

    Whether you're a seasoned ultra runner or just curious about this crazy sport, Ron's insights are sure to inspire you to chase your own adventures and discover the strength within.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Ron Wireman and His Achievements

    06:30 Training and Preparation for Big's Backyard Ultra

    12:08 Logistics and Crew Management for Big's

    18:05 Nutrition Strategies During the Race

    23:55 Hallucinations and Mental Challenges During the Race

    35:31 Navigating the Challenges of Endurance Racing

    44:44 Team Dynamics and Support in Ultra Running

    53:29 The Mental Game: Pushing Through Pain and Fatigue

    01:00:01 Nutrition and Hydration Strategies for Endurance

    01:08:49 Gear Choices: Finding the Right Shoes for the Race

    01:15:55 Achieving Personal Records and Overcoming Challenges

    01:25:03 Advice for First-Time Backyard Racers

    01:34:45 Finding Your Passion in Endurance Sports

    01:45:31 Navigating Pain in Endurance Running

    01:51:29 The Role of Mental Resilience

    01:59:28 Crew Support and Decision Making

    02:11:19 Future Goals and Reflections


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    2 hrs and 20 mins
  • Meg Eckert: Queen of the Backyard Ultra
    Nov 5 2024

    Shattering records with 526 miles in 6 days at the Dome and the most recent female world record at Big's Backyard Ultra with a jaw-dropping 362 miles! That's the mind-boggling distances ultra runner Meg Eckert has achieved in 2024. On this episode of Dirt and Vert, Meg takes us inside this incredible feat of endurance, sharing the mental and physical hurdles she overcame. From her transition to trail running to tackling her first 100-miler, Meg reveals the challenges and triumphs that have shaped her ultra journey. Plus, she dives deep into the crucial role of nutrition, recovery, and mental resilience in pushing human limits. Get ready to be inspired by Meg's unwavering passion and dedication to the sport.


    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to Meg Eckert and Her Achievements

    06:14 Transitioning to Ultra Distances

    11:46 The Challenge of Six Days at the Dome

    17:26 Nutrition and Recovery Strategies

    23:13 Final Thoughts and Future Goals

    41:35 Memorable Races and Personal Highlights

    46:59 The Challenge of Big Horn 100

    54:17 The Backyard Ultra Experience

    01:01:36 Facing Challenges and Mental Strategies

    01:07:05 Lessons from DNF Experiences

    01:20:21 The Mental Game of Endurance Running

    01:29:44 The Joy of Running and Personal Challenges

    01:37:15 Hallucinations and the Ultra Running Experience

    01:45:27 Reflections on Accomplishments and Future Goals

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    1 hr and 54 mins
  • Heather Watson: Running with the Angels and Paramedics
    Oct 27 2024

    Imagine collapsing mid-marathon, waking up in the hospital, and facing the possibility of never walking again. That's exactly what happened to ultra runner Heather Watson. In this episode, Heather shares her harrowing experience of suffering a stroke during a race, the surreal moments she experienced while unconscious, and the critical role a paramedic played in saving her life. Hear how she fought back with unwavering determination, battling communication difficulties and fear during her hospitalization, to embark on a remarkable journey of recovery fueled by resilience, community support, and the joy of running.

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    2 hrs and 15 mins
  • Ken Zemach: The "King of the Road" 2023
    Oct 17 2024

    In this episode of the Dirt and Vert podcast, hosts David and Matt sit down with Ken Zemach, the 2023 King of the Road, to discuss his journey into ultra running. Ken shares how personal struggles led him to take up running seriously at the age of 39, losing weight and finding a coping mechanism through the sport. He emphasizes the importance of coaching and accountability in training, as well as the strategies he employs to optimize his running experiences, particularly in challenging races like Vol State and Badwater. The conversation also delves into the significance of heat training, pacing strategies, and the community aspect of ultra running, highlighting how these elements contribute to personal growth and enjoyment in the sport. In this conversation, Ken Zemach shares his insights on pacing, discipline, and the transformative power of running. He discusses his personal experiences in ultra races, emphasizing the importance of enjoying the journey and finding joy in the process. Ken also highlights the significance of nutrition and personal limits in endurance racing, providing practical strategies for aspiring ultra runners.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Ken Zemach and His Journey

    06:17 The Catalyst for Change: Personal Struggles and Running

    12:17 The Role of Coaching and Accountability in Running

    18:16 Optimizing the Vol State Experience

    24:03 Comparing Vol State and Badwater: Different Experiences

    30:15 Heat Training: Strategies and Benefits

    35:53 Pacing Strategies: The Importance of Even Splits

    42:00 The Experience of Running: Community and Personal Growth

    01:03:20 The Importance of Pacing in Ultra Running

    01:10:51 Finding Your Personal Limits and Discipline

    01:17:09 Memorable Races and Personal Achievements

    01:30:13 The Transformative Power of Running

    01:36:29 Why Running Brings Peace and Joy

    01:38:26 Strategies for Endurance Racing

    01:48:50 Nutrition Choices for Ultra Runners

    02:04:11 The Joy of Running and Community

    02:05:13 Life-Changing Experiences in Running




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    2 hrs and 6 mins
  • Lauren Beihoffer: From Data to Dirt and Finding Her Joy
    Oct 11 2024

    In this episode of the Dirt and Vert podcast, David and Matt sit down with Lauren Beihoffer, a former research scientist turned ultra running coach. Lauren shares her inspiring journey from being a non-runner to a passionate endurance athlete, detailing her experiences with various races, the challenges she faced, and the lessons learned along the way. The conversation delves into the importance of nutrition, the balance between strength training and running, and the unique experiences of coaching others in the ultra running community. Lauren also recounts her adventure on the reality show 'Naked and Afraid,' highlighting the challenges of survival and the perspective it gave her on comfort and resilience. The episode concludes with a discussion on the reasons why we run and the joy it brings to our lives.


    Chapters

    00:00 From Research to Running: Lauren's Journey

    04:28 The First 50K Experience: Trials and Triumphs

    09:28 Learning the Ropes: Nutrition and Hydration in Ultra Running

    15:23 Facing the Elements: The Hardest Race

    20:26 Fueling Strategies: Finding What Works

    30:28 Lessons Learned: The Continuous Journey of an Ultra Runner

    40:58 Lessons from Early Races

    45:38 Listening to Your Body

    51:18 Balancing Performance and Longevity

    57:20 The Ebb and Flow of Training

    01:01:27 The Journey into Coaching

    01:10:04 Why I Run

    01:11:47 Experiences on Naked and Afraid


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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • David & Matt: Yeti 100 Training, Nutrition, and Little Bit More
    Oct 4 2024

    In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, hosts David and Matt discuss their upcoming races, the Yeti 100 and Firewater, and share insights on training, nutrition strategies, and recovery practices. They reflect on past races, the importance of community in running, and their goals for future events. The conversation emphasizes the significance of proper training, hydration, and recovery in achieving running success. This podcast was to be released after Yeti 100 but unfortunately the southeast has been hit very hard with flooding from Hurricane Helene and most races around this area were cancelled. We hope you and your families are safe and our hearts go out to everyone who has lost friends and family during this time.


    We love you guys!

    -David & Matt

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    58 mins