Jonny Ardavanis joins Ray, E.Z., Mark, and Oscar to discuss finding peace in the character of God, as explored in his book, Consider the Lilies. Though he never initially saw himself as a pastor, he now serves full-time in Tennessee, driven by a desire to offer hope in an anxious world. In full time ministry Jonny observed widespread struggles with anxiety and depression, prompting him to explore these issues from a biblical perspective. He emphasizes that anxiety isn’t limited to young people; it’s a pervasive issue that many try to escape by staying busy. However, busyness often worsens the problem, as true peace comes from deep reflection on God’s character.

Jonny argues that anxiety is like a ski lift that never reaches the top of the mountain—an ever-present tension beneath the surface. The guys along with Jonny talk about slowing down and contemplating God’s attributes to combat this. They suggest that believers often fill their lives with neutral things that offer no real help, leading to an underdeveloped view of God’s attributes. In Scripture, when God addresses the anxious, He reveals His character, reminding them that He is an ever-present help in times of trouble. Jonny emphasizes that God’s sovereignty cannot be separated from His character. For instance, when David was fleeing from Saul, he found comfort in knowing that God understood him deeply, which calmed his anxious heart. Jonny highlights that even Jesus, fully human, experienced deep sorrow and distress, showing empathy and tender care for the anxious.

When addressing those who feel condemned by their anxiety, Jonny advises starting with questions and acknowledging that fear is a human experience. Christians should lean on their community and cast their cares on God, who is stronger and wiser. Jonny also addresses the modern epidemic of loneliness, noting that anxiety often isolates people from what they need most—being known and loved. He encourages people to be open with God and the local church, reminding them that they don’t have to bear their burdens alone.

Jesus, who knew true grief, betrayal, and abandonment, identifies with us in our suffering. The group concludes that knowing God leads to experiencing the peace of God. This relationship is both a privilege and a foundation for hope. We can be confident that God will not leave us, because He forsook His own Son on the cross to secure our relationship with Him. This assurance, coupled with understanding the character of God, draws believers into a deeper intimacy and trust in Him.

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Emeal (“E.Z.”) Zwayne
Mark Spence
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