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In the Helping: A Conversation with Barrett Payne and Heather Brown

In the Helping: A Conversation with Barrett Payne and Heather Brown

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Executive Director Mark Ramsey speaks with Heather Brown and the Rev. Barrett Payne (James Island Presbyterian Church, South Carolina) about the centrality of forgiveness to Christian identity, the problem with a "checkbox" approach to faith, and what personal and communal crises reveal about the witness of the church.

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