• 82. Linton Stephens on living authentically with a public platform
    Nov 22 2024

    We asked Linton Stephens to come and speak about authenticity for our first live show at the Royal Society of Musicians. A musician and broadcaster who has been naturally unapologetic about his identity in all corners of his career, living authentically is just part of Linton's everyday. But classical music's fragility means that this type of openness can be hard to find. We discuss Linton's early life, campaigning for women's music, the power of mentioning his boyfriend on the radio, the importance of representation and his views on tokenism. We also open questions up to the audience who come forward with some fantastic questions for Linton.


    Thank you to RSM for their ongoing support and stay tuned for details of our next live talk.


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    Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

    Editor & music: Katy Ehrlich


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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • 81. Jalayne Mitchell: Classical Wellness
    Nov 16 2024

    Back in February we talked with the legend, Jalayne Mitchell. It was such a special episode that we had to keep it brewing for many, many months. Jalayne has since taken a break from Classical Wellness but her message is still so vital and timely.


    We talk about starting an instrument 'late' and playing catch up, starting a bold project outside the norm, the paralysis of performance anxiety and culture of silence at music college, amongst other things that just aren't cute at all.


    Thank you Jalayne, not just for the work you've done but also for setting an example of reevaluating priorities and taking time out. Big respect.


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    Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

    Editor: Oscar Gormley

    Music: Katy Ehrlich






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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • 80. Grief, talent and ethical dilemmas
    Nov 10 2024

    CW: death; brief mention of disordered eating


    What happens when someone dies? How do you talk to someone who's lost a parent? What's wrong with the word 'talent'? Do you take on work that makes you uncomfortable? Why are we so scared of Freshers Week? We answer all these questions with absolute authority this week on Things Musicians Don't Talk About!


    Grab a cuppa, walk the dog/child, endure the commute, or simply rawdog this episode. We have a chinwag, a catchup and put the world to rights as per usual.


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    Hosts: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

    Editor: Rebecca Toal

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    46 mins
  • 79. The unedit: my 2017 nervous breakdown
    Oct 31 2024

    The start of an unedited series of podcasts.


    TW: mental illness


    Hattie shares the story of her 2017 nervous breakdown and reads a blog she wrote about it back in August. She also answers questions about breakdowns and whether she worries about them returning


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    23 mins
  • 78. Matthew Barley on psychosis and healing through ayahuasca
    Sep 27 2024

    When cellist Matthew Barley was 16 he tried to take his own life following a drug-induced psychotic episode. He then went on to channel everything into music until in 2019 the trauma of the event resurfaced.


    We speak to Matthew about his experience of psychosis, looking back on his experiences and the process of trauma therapy and the impact of ayahuasca. He takes us through writing music for his new album based on the events and discusses the way the classical music world views mental health conditions


    matthewbarley.com

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    52 mins
  • 77. London Podcast Festival with Ayanna Witter-Johnson
    Sep 11 2024

    This was a big one for Things Musicians Don't Talk About: our first live show!!!! We are so grateful to the London Podcast Festival for inviting us to take the stage with the exceptional Ayanna Witter-Johnson.


    Hattie and Becca talked a little bit about the conception of the podcast and their own mental health journeys, and then chatted with Ayanna about her background and career in music. Ayanna talks brilliantly about the intricacies of making her own unique career despite not fitting into a traditional classical music pathway, and elaborates on feeling like an outsider, failures and rejections, and her process of making art from trauma and experiences of colourism.


    We end with our usual Wins of the Week and take some truly excellent questions from the audience, and were truly blown away by all our fans that came to watch the show! Massive thanks to the Kings Place & London Podcast Festival team who made the day an absolute joy and really supported our audience to have the best experience possible.


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    Music: Katy Ehrlich & Ayanna Witter-Johnson


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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • 76. Laure Chan: bridging cultures and breaking norms
    Sep 9 2024

    We're back with our first interview after the summer! The brilliant Laure Chan speaks with Hattie and Becca about her cross-cultural, genre-bending creative endeavours and her journey to musical authenticity.


    How did Laure get into composing whilst already being an established violinist? How does she explore her own identity through the medium of music? How did her shoulder injury affect her outlook on making music?


    Find out by listening to Things Musicians Don’t Talk About.


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    Host: Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal

    Editor: Emma Werner

    Music: Katy Ehrlich


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    54 mins
  • 75. Blog Special | What if I continue putting on weight forever?
    Sep 5 2024

    Trigger warning: eating disorders, weight (no specific numbers)


    A different format of episode this week! Becca reads out her latest blog on her body, her identity and her fears about the possibility of a life of ‘sizing-up’.


    She answers some questions afterwards about the blog, talking about the male gaze, the concept of numbers in recovery and the physicality of trumpet playing.

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    19 mins