In today’s world, there’s an interesting juxtaposition between constant (and often necessary) use of technology coupled with conversations around unplugging. In this episode, we dive into digital detoxing, why everyone suddenly wants a flip phone, and how our nervous systems are begging for boundaries. From nostalgic phone memories to the psychology of being “always on,” we’re asking: can we ever truly unplug? (Spoiler: you don’t have to throw your phone in the ocean… but we get it.)

This episode covers:

• 05:48 - Tea & Crumpets: Tokyo Disney & Sunrise On The Reaping
• 10:47 - Step Into My Office: Setting tech boundaries while working from home
• 15:43 - The DSM: Digital Detox + Unplugging
• 39:41 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!
• 42:32 - Val's Pick: "All You Wanted" by Michelle Branch
• 44:06 - Em's Pick: "Two Ghosts" by Harry Styles
• 44:23 - Wait...What? - The concept of “reheating nachos
• 46:46 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Clarksville, TN 4 year old saves her daycare teacher’s life & an 81-year-old waitress said she couldn’t retire, so a stranger raised over $300K for her

Resources + Stuff Mentioned in This Episode:

• Sunrise On The Reaping
• Business of Apps Push Notifications Statistics of 2025
• How Multitasking Drains Us
• All You Wanted by Michelle Branch
• LOVE/HATE LIST by DREAM BABY PRESS
• Two Ghosts- Harry Styles
• Clarksville, TN 4 year old saves her daycare teacher’s life
• An 81-year-old waitress said she couldn’t retire, so a stranger raised over $300K for her

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