A Great Place to Have a War
America in Laos and the Birth of a Military CIA
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In 1960 President Eisenhower was focused on Laos, a tiny Southeast Asian nation few Americans had ever heard of. Washington feared the country would fall to Communism, triggering a domino effect in the rest of Southeast Asia. So in January 1961, Eisenhower approved the CIA's Operation Momentum, a plan to create a proxy army of ethnic Hmong to fight Communist forces in Laos. While remaining largely hidden from the American public and most of Congress, Momentum became the largest CIA paramilitary operation in the history of the United States. The brutal war, which continued under Presidents Kennedy and Nixon, lasted nearly two decades, killed one-tenth of Laos' total population, left thousands of unexploded bombs in the ground, and changed the nature of the CIA forever.
Joshua Kurlantzick gives us the definitive account of the Laos war and its central characters, including the four key people who led the operation - the CIA operative who came up with the idea, the Hmong general who led the proxy army in the field, the paramilitary specialist who trained the Hmong, and the State Department careerist who took control over the war as it grew.
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Vietnam became the Western world’s most divisive modern conflict, precipitating a battlefield humiliation for France in 1954, then a vastly greater one for the US in 1975. Max Hastings has spent the past three years interviewing scores of participants on both sides, as well as researching a multitude of American and Vietnamese documents and memoirs, to create an epic narrative of an epic struggle. Here are the vivid realities of strife amid jungle and paddies that killed two million people.
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A more nuanced view than Ken Burns' companion book
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The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Vietnam War
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- Narrated by: Tom Weiner
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The mainstream media and history books would have you believe that the Vietnam War was tragic and a dismal failure. But Phillip Jennings is here to set the record straight, about one of the bright spots in U.S. military history. In this latest Politically Incorrect Guide, Jennings shatters culturally accepted myths and busts politically incorrect lies that liberal pundits and leftist professors have been telling you for years.
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Politically incorrect is right.
- By Joe Dunckel on 09-29-20
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King of Spies
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In 1946, Master Sergeant Donald Nichols was repairing jeeps on the sleepy island of Guam when he caught the eye of recruiters from the army's Counter Intelligence Corps. After just three months' training, he was sent to Korea, then a backwater beneath the radar of MacArthur's Pacific Command. Though he lacked the pedigree of most US spies - Nichols was a seventh-grade dropout - he quickly metamorphosed from army mechanic to black ops phenomenon.
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Unplayable recording
- By Lin Tin-tin on 10-18-24
By: Blaine Harden
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The Way of the Knife
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Pulitzer Prize winner Mark Mazzetti examines secret wars over the past decade, tracking key characters from the intelligence and military communities across the world. Among the characters we meet in The Way of the Knife are a young CIA officer dropped into the tribal areas to learn the hard way how the spy games in Pakistan are played; an Air Force test pilot who fired the first drone missile in the Nevada desert; and a chain-smoking Pentagon official who ran an off-the-books spying operation in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
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Excellent critique of covert operations
- By Keefer on 04-27-13
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Legacy of Ashes
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This is the book the CIA does not want you to read. For the last 60 years, the CIA has maintained a formidable reputation in spite of its terrible record, never disclosing its blunders to the American public. It spun its own truth to the nation while reality lay buried in classified archives. Now, Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter Tim Weiner offers a stunning indictment of the CIA, a deeply flawed organization that has never deserved America's confidence.
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Flawed but Important
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A groundbreaking account of how Britain became the base of operations for the exiled leaders of Europe in their desperate struggle to reclaim their continent from Hitler, from the New York Times best-selling author of Citizens of London and Those Angry Days.
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Not What I Expected--More What I Needed to Know
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Black Ops
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- By: Tony Geraghty
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After eight challenging years in Afghanistan, the new U.S. strategy, aimed at winning hearts and minds rather than search-and-destroy, refocuses the conflict on Special Forces: unorthodox soldiers who work outside of traditional military forces to combine secret military operations with nation building.
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Painful narration
- By JWS on 12-18-20
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One Hundred Victories
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- By: Linda Robinson
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In One Hundred Victories, acclaimed military expert Linda Robinson shows how the special operations forces are - after a decade of intensive combat operations - evolving to become the go-to force for operations worldwide.
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Great book very informative.
- By Ashley Cooper on 10-16-13
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Shadow Strike
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- Narrated by: Christopher Lane
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On September 6, 2007, shortly after midnight, Israeli fighters advanced on Deir ez-Zour in Syria. Israel often flew into Syria as a warning to President Bashar al-Assad. But this time, there was no warning and no explanation. This was a covert operation, with one goal: to destroy a nuclear reactor being built by North Korea under a tight veil of secrecy in the Syrian desert. Shadow Strike tells, for the first time, the story of the espionage, military might and psychological warfare behind Israel’s operation to stop one of the greatest known acts of nuclear proliferation.
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Important Book!
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- Michael L Shepherd
- 05-02-19
Another Southeast Asia disaster, courtesy of USA bureaucrats aka CIA
This book gave me some background on a conflict I was unaware of, and it gave me insight into some of the seemjnglg stupid or incompetent operations reportedly carried out by CIA or by others using their intelligence product in the following years. This book has a powerul story to tell, and like in life, there are soom good guys trying to do what is right, while under terrible supervisors and restrictive orders for combat. No wonder we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, while bureaucrats want us to stay in Syria, and as of yesterday some are calling for us to go into Venezuela.
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- Daniel
- 12-28-18
illuminating read of Laos' relationship with USA
Excellent history lesson that anyone with interest in Laos should check out. Engaging from beginning to end.
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- Kevin Warren
- 11-28-17
Very interesting read
Definitely a worth-while read if you're into SE Asia or the evolution of the CIA. There's no one thing about this book that stands out but it's a good source of information to fold in with other works.
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- Martian
- 01-22-23
Fills in a big gap
Very good listen and difficult subject but very enlightening for someone born in 1968. Highly recommend. It’s the nuts & bolts of the secret.
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- Texas87
- 06-27-22
Excellent book
The US CIA war in Laos is fully covered in this excellent book. The changes in the CIA that this war engendered leads directly to the post 9/11 torture sites and failed efforts to rein in the CIA. Without intending to, the author paints a damning portrait of the CIA.
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- Amazon Customer
- 01-30-17
great history with a great narrative
This is a great CIA history of a little known war. The narrator does a good job.
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- John
- 06-01-17
well-written but some reviews on Amazon dispute it
well-written but some reviews on Amazon dispute its version...other accounts should be on audible.com too
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