All That Is Wicked
A Gilded-Age Story of Murder and the Race to Decode the Criminal Mind
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Kate Winkler Dawson
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Acclaimed crime historian, podcaster, and author of American Sherlock Kate Winkler Dawson tells the thrilling story of Edward Rulloff—a serial murderer who was called “too intelligent to be killed”—and the array of 19th century investigators who were convinced his brain held the key to finally understanding the criminal mind.
Edward Rulloff was a brilliant yet utterly amoral murderer—some have called him a “Victorian-era Hannibal Lecter”—whose crimes spanned decades and whose victims were chosen out of revenge, out of envy, and sometimes out of necessity. From his humble beginnings in upstate New York to the dazzling salons and social life he established in New York City, at every turn Rulloff used his intelligence and regal bearing to evade detection and avoid punishment. He could talk his way out of any crime...until one day, Rulloff's luck ran out.
By 1871 Rulloff sat chained in his cell—a psychopath holding court while curious 19th-century "mindhunters" tried to understand what made him tick. From alienists (early psychiatrists who tried to analyze the source of his madness) to neurologists (who wanted to dissect his brain) to phrenologists (who analyzed the bumps on his head to determine his character), each one thought he held the key to understanding the essential question: Is evil born or made? Eventually, Rulloff’s brain would be placed in a jar at Cornell University as the prize specimen of their anatomy collection...where it still sits today, slowly moldering in a dusty jar. But his story—and its implications for the emerging field of criminal psychology—were just beginning.
Expanded from season one of her hit podcast on the Exactly Right network (seven million downloads and growing), in All That Is Wicked Kate Winkler Dawson draws on hundreds of source materials and never-before-shared historical documents to present one of the first glimpses into the mind of a serial killer—a century before the term was coined—through the scientists whose work would come to influence criminal justice for decades to come.
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In 1901 Evelyn Nesbit, a chorus girl, dined alone with the architect Stanford White in his townhouse on 24th Street in New York. Nesbit, just 16 years old, had recently moved to the city. White was 47. As the foremost architect of his day, he was a celebrity. She told no one that White raped her that night until, several years later, she confided in Harry Thaw, the millionaire playboy who would later become her husband. Thaw, thirsting for revenge, shot and killed White in 1906 before hundreds of theatergoers during a performance in Madison Square Garden.
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"The Girl" is barely in this book
- By Polly L. Mccall on 07-12-18
By: Simon Baatz
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The Girls of Murder City
- Fame, Lust, and the Beautiful Killers Who Inspired Chicago
- By: Douglas Perry
- Narrated by: Peter Berkrot
- Length: 10 hrs and 11 mins
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Chicago, 1924. There was nothing surprising about men turning up dead in the Second City. Life was cheaper than a quart of illicit gin in the gangland capital of the world. But two murders that spring were special - worthy of celebration. So believed Maurine Watkins, a wanna-be playwright and a "girl reporter" for the Chicago Tribune, the city's "hanging paper".
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Some books should be read
- By zoomcity on 07-31-11
By: Douglas Perry
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Killers of the Flower Moon
- The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI
- By: David Grann
- Narrated by: Will Patton, Ann Marie Lee, Danny Campbell
- Length: 9 hrs and 4 mins
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In the 1920s, the richest people per capita in the world were members of the Osage Nation in Oklahoma. After oil was discovered beneath their land, the Osage rode in chauffeured automobiles, built mansions, and sent their children to study in Europe.
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An outstanding story, highly recommended
- By S. Blakely on 06-22-17
By: David Grann
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The Sewing Girl's Tale
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- By: John Wood Sweet
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On a moonless night in the summer of 1793 a crime was committed in the back room of a New York brothel—the kind of crime that even victims usually kept secret. Instead, seventeen-year-old seamstress Lanah Sawyer did what virtually no one in US history had done before: she charged a gentleman with rape. Her accusation sparked a raw courtroom drama and a relentless struggle for vindication that threatened both Lanah’s and her assailant’s lives.
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Great for history buffs!
- By LibertyHillbilly on 02-09-23
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The Battered Body Beneath the Flagstones, and Other Victorian Scandals
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A grisly book dedicated to the crimes, perversions and outrages of Victorian England, covering high-profile offences - such as the murder of actor William Terriss, whose stabbing at the stage door of the Adelphi Theatre in 1897 filled the front pages for many weeks - as well as lesser-known transgressions that scandalised the Victorian era. The tales include murders and violent crimes but also feature scandals that merely amused the Victorians.
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Doesn’t question it’s sources enough
- By Emily Stoneking on 11-27-18
By: Michelle Morgan
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My Life Among the Serial Killers
- Inside the Minds of the World's Most Notorious Murderers
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Dr. Helen Morrison has profiled more than 80 serial killers around the world. What she has learned about them will shatter every assumption you've ever had about the most notorious killers known to man.
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- Murder, Vice, Police Corruption, and New York's Trial of the Century
- By: Mike Dash
- Narrated by: Robertson Dean
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They called it Satan's Circus, a square mile of Midtown Manhattan where vice ruled, sin flourished, and depravity danced in every doorway. At the turn of the 20th century, murder was so common in the vice district that few people were surprised when the loudmouthed owner of a shabby casino was gunned down on the steps of its best hotel.
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New York, N.Y
- By Robert on 07-11-07
By: Mike Dash
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In the closing days of 1799, the United States was still a young republic, its uncertain future contested by the two major political parties of the day: the well-moneyed Federalists, led by Alexander Hamilton, and the populist Republicans, led by Aaron Burr. The two finest lawyers in New York, Burr and Hamilton were bitter rivals both in and out of the courtroom, and as the next election approached - with Manhattan likely to be the swing district on which the presidency would hinge - their animosity reached a fever pitch.
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The Trial of the Century
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By: Paul Collins
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The Invention of Murder
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Murder in the 19th century was rare. But murder as sensation and entertainment became ubiquitous, with cold-blooded killings transformed into novels, broadsides, ballads, opera, and melodrama - even into puppet shows and performing-dog acts. Detective fiction and the new police force developed in parallel, each imitating the other - the founders of Scotland Yard gave rise to Dickens's Inspector Bucket, the first fictional police detective, who in turn influenced Sherlock Holmes and, ultimately, even P. D. James and Patricia Cornwell.
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Excellent, awesome and educational!
- By Janalyn on 03-14-20
By: Judith Flanders
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The Resurrection of the Romanovs
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The Resurrection of the Romanovs draws on a wealth of new information from previously unpublished materials and unexplored sources to probe the most enduring Romanov mystery of all: the fate of the Tsar's youngest daughter, Anastasia, whose remains were not buried with those of her family, and her identification with Anna Anderson, the woman who claimed to be the missing Grand Duchess.
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- By B Hart on 05-03-18
By: Greg King, and others
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In The Assassin’s Accomplice, historian Kate Clifford Larson tells the gripping story of Mary Surratt, a little-known conspirator in the plot to kill Abraham Lincoln, and the first woman ever to be executed by the federal government. A Confederate sympathizer, Surratt ran the boarding house where the conspirators met to plan Lincoln’s assassination. Set against the backdrop of the Civil War, The Assassin’s Accomplice tells the intricate story of the Lincoln conspiracy through the eyes of its only female participant, offering a fresh perspective on America’s most famous murder.
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Did She or Didn't She
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The Suspicions of Mr. Whicher
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In June of 1860 three-year-old Saville Kent was found at the bottom of an outdoor privy with his throat slit. The crime horrified all England and led to a national obsession with detection. At the time, the detective was a relatively new invention; there were only eight detectives in all of England and rarely were they called out of London, but this crime was so shocking that Scotland Yard sent its best man to investigate, Inspector Jonathan Whicher.
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Tragic Murder at dawn of detective bureau
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Death in the City of Light
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Death in the City of Light is the gripping, true story of a brutal serial killer who unleashed his own reign of terror in Nazi-Occupied Paris. As decapitated heads and dismembered body parts surfaced in the Seine, Commissaire Georges-Victor Massu, head of the Brigade Criminelle, was tasked with tracking down the elusive murderer in a twilight world of Gestapo, gangsters, resistance fighters, pimps, prostitutes, spies, and other shadowy figures of the Parisian underworld. The main suspect was Dr. Marcel Petiot, a handsome, charming physician with remarkable charisma.
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Too many facts too little story
- By Caitanya on 09-27-11
By: David King
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Little Shoes
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In the summer of 1937, a California crime stunned an already grim nation. Three little girls were lured away from a neighborhood park to unthinkable deaths. After a frantic week-long manhunt for the killer, a suspect emerged. Justice was swift, and the condemned man was buried away with the horrifying story. But decades later, Pamela Everett, a lawyer and former journalist, starts digging, following up a cryptic comment her father once made about losing two of his sisters. Everett unearths a truly historic legal case that included the genesis of modern sex offender laws and the last man sentenced to hang in California.
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Masterful presentation of secrets and crime case!
- By deb on 05-31-18
By: Pamela Everett
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- 06-18-23
AMAZING STORY!
I had no idea that this man existed until mentioned on Buried Bones. This truly is a very creepy man who basically decided no matter what this was his story. I think that Kate did an amazing job telling this man's story. The only thing I don't understand is why would you stay after being treated so badly by the family -he never left- he stayed then killed his wife. He truly could not love but himself. I just don't know why he was so evil.
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- chelshun
- 12-18-22
Another amazing story from Kate Winkler Dawson
I’ve listened to all of Kate’s podcasts and books, and this was no exception to her other great work. Clearly thoroughly researched with realistic perspectives, and interesting notes on history.
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- Thomas G Robinson
- 06-07-23
I wish I could give this book two reviews!
I wish I could give this book two reviews,; one for the first 8 hours and 48 minutes and one for the last 12 minutes. I thoroughly enjoyed the story and all of the detailed information, although the narration was a little slow. I felt like it was insightful and well written. Then I got to the last 12 minutes where the author turned away from a narrative about a killer and the men who tried to study him to interjecting politics. She really could have left that out. I give the last 12 minutes no stars.
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- Lulubee1900
- 03-15-23
Disappointed
Seems to be some blurry lines between science and facts and what the author decided is true
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- Amazon Customer
- 07-22-24
Researched and well written.
Compelling argument that is both objective and fact based. Great writing. Winkler Dawson presents information without bias and looks at the details from all angles.
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- Anonymous User
- 10-18-24
The author turned political at the end
In the epilogue the author said things like “in the trump era” when speaking of racism. And that President Trump said that “Mexican immigrants are predisposed to illegal acts.”
She didn’t have to go there. It was a great book until then. I will never purchase any of her works again.
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- Anonymous
- 10-15-22
PLEASE STOP The Politicizing of Everything
I really enjoy true crime and forensic psychology. I was very excited to hear this story of a 19th century serial killer and what made him tic. And although the information in the book was interesting, at times it seemed a little disjointed. I would have given more stars, but I really didn’t care to hear how it’s Donald Trump’s real or perceived views on race that have basically created a horrible world past, present & future. If someone is writing a book like this, it’s best to stick to the facts (and document those facts appropriately and correctly especially when quoting people). Facts are peer reviewed journal articles, tested science theories, finely documented histories not political rhetoric. It really ruins the credibility of the author and the book when political opinion is sprinkled in a book who’s topic is unrelated to politics (IMO).
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- Emily
- 06-12-24
Good story
Really good story. Really well told. Could’ve possibly done with being a little bit more concise, but I guess there was a lot to cover. Overall, she did a fantastic job.
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- Rebecca Hill
- 04-03-23
Insanity and Murder
The interesting career of Edward Rulloff was exciting to say the least. In addition to murdering several people, and being accused of murdering two others, he was manically insane. Bent on producing what he considered "his life work" which was the study of language. He felt he could untangle the languages of the world through this work, and was determined to have it finished before his death.
During his lifetime, he was hounded by suspicion, which was rightly given. He was responsible for the murder of his wife, and most likely his baby daughter. He was suspected of killing a sister in law and her son.
Edward Rulloff is one of the more interesting serial killers that I have read about, and the many facets of his mind that were left unlocked due to the scientific methods of the day. While he deserved punishment for his crimes, there are many areas that could have given some interesting insights into the mind of someone who could be considered genius, yet entirely insane.
Fascinating read, and highly enjoyable.
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- Lauren Espinoza
- 10-07-22
Brilliantly Written
This brilliantly written tale of Edward Rullof's life was impossible to put down! Well Done!
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