Colin is joined by Ryen Russilo, host of the Ryen Russilo podcast at The Ringer!

They start with Colin’s take after the NBA draft: that marquee sports broadcasters do better work when they are allowed to specialize in one sport rather than trying to cover them all and diluting the on-air product (4:00). They discuss the decline in entertainment production in Hollywood (16:15) and contrast and compare what makes for successful broadcasting vs podcasting (25:15).

They talk about their own podcast consumption, and weigh in on Jake Tapper’s controversial book “Original Sin”, Tapper’s media tour and the public blowback it has received (37:00). Colin explains why the most “cringe” thing in politics is when people denounce comedians as “”unfunny” just because of their political views (41:30).

They review the NBA Draft and discuss why the talent entering the draft the past two years has been far more NBA ready after a twenty year drought (54:00).They point to NIL, conference realignment and the transfer portal being a boon for the quality of college sports (1:00:45).

Finally, they discuss former college coaches like Nick Saban and Urban Meyer transitioning into broadcasting and why they’re so good on TV (1:07:00).

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