Church of England revs with a difference Tom Pelham and Jamie Franklin sit down to talk about the biggest stories in church and state. This time:

• Lily Allen jokes that she can't remember how many abortions she's had.
• Justin Welby at the Cambridge Union says he was being "thick" about gay marriage.
• Government announces employment benefit for women who have had miscarriages before 24 weeks.

All that and much much more as ever. Enjoy!

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