On the Historicity of Jesus
Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt
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The assumption that Jesus existed as a historical person has occasionally been questioned in the course of the last hundred years or so, but any doubts that have been raised have usually been put to rest in favor of imagining a blend of the historical, the mythical, and the theological in the surviving records of Jesus. Historian and philosopher Richard Carrier reexamines the whole question and finds compelling reasons to suspect the more daring assumption is correct. He lays out extensive research on the evidence for Jesus and the origins of Christianity and poses the key questions that must now be answered if the historicity of Jesus is to survive as a dominant paradigm. Carrier contrasts the most credible reconstruction of a historical Jesus with the most credible theory of Christian origins if a historical Jesus did not exist. Such a theory posits that the Jesus figure was originally conceived of as a celestial being known only through private revelations and hidden messages in scripture; then stories placing this being in earthly history were crafted to communicate allegorically the claims of the gospel. Such stories eventually came to be believed or promoted in the struggle for control of the Christian churches that survived the tribulations of the first century. Carrier finds this theory more credible than has been previously imagined. He explains why it offers a better explanation for all the disparate evidence surviving from the first two centuries of the Christian era. He argues that we need a more careful and robust theory of cultural syncretism between Jewish theology and politics of the second-temple period and the most popular features of pagan religion and philosophy of the time. For everyone intent on defending a historical Jesus, this is the book to challenge them.
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Historians know virtually nothing about the two decades following the crucifixion of Jesus, when his followers regrouped and began to spread his message. During this time the man we know as the apostle Paul joined the movement and began to preach to the gentiles. Using the oldest Christian documents that we have - the letters of Paul - as well as other early Christian sources, historian and scholar James Tabor reconstructs the origins of Christianity.
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Paul or Jesus?
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The inspirational classic, More than a Carpenter, is now updated for a new generation of seekers with a fresh look, revised material, and a new chapter that addresses questions commonly raised today. Former skeptic Josh McDowell is now joined by his son Sean as they examine the evidence about Jesus. Is he really the Lord he claimed to be? How can we know for sure? More than a Carpenter offers arguments for faith from a skeptic turned believer.
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A great book but error in the audio
- By Zion Serves on 06-27-17
By: Josh D. McDowell
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This explosive work of history unearths clues that finally demonstrate the truth about one of the world's great religions: that it was born out of the conflict between the Romans and messianic Jews who fought a bitter war with each other during the first century. The Romans employed a tactic they routinely used to conquer and absorb other nations: they grafted their imperial rule onto the religion of the conquered.
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Who mixes fact with fiction?
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Winner of the John W. Kluge Prize for Lifetime Achievement in the Human Sciences, Jaroslav Pelikan is Professor Emeritus of history at Yale University and past president of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. This examination of the history of the Bible reflects half a century of study and research by the author. In Whose Bible Is It?, Pelikan traces the transformation of the Bible from its earliest oral traditions to its modern forms.
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Keep away from it. Hate-Literature.
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James, the Brother of Jesus
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James was a vegetarian, wore only linen clothing, bathed daily at dawn in cold water, and was a life-long Nazirite. In this profound and provocative work of scholarly detection, eminent biblical scholar Robert Eisenman introduces a startling theory about the identity of James - the brother of Jesus - who was almost entirely marginalized in the New Testament.
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Regretable. Hard to follow. Repetitive.
- By Jimi on 08-18-17
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The Apocryphal Gospels
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Between 50 and 90 CE, the various writings that comprise the New Testament were written, including the four Gospels, the Acts of the Apostles, the Epistles of Paul, and other letters to more general communities of the early Church. But what is recognized as the 26 books of the New Testament today, in literally hundreds of English translations, actually took several more centuries to be determined as "canonical" by the Church.
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Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy
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A man who has consciously and deliberately walked the path of Christ, John Shelby Spong has lived his entire life inside the Christian Church. In this profound and considered work, he offers a radical new way to look at the gospels today as he shows just how deeply Jewish the Christian Gospels are and how much they reflect the Jewish scriptures, history, and patterns of worship.
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understanding the jewish thoughts in the Gospels
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Hidden But Now Revealed
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This audiobook explores the biblical conception of mystery as an initial, partially hidden revelation that is subsequently more fully revealed, shedding light not only on the richness of the concept itself, but also on the broader relationship between the Old and New Testaments. Exploring all the occurrences of the term mystery in the New Testament and the topics found in conjunction with them, this work unpacks how the New Testament writers understood the issue of continuity and discontinuity.
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Disappointing!
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- Amazon Customer
- 03-25-15
An excellent defence of a controversial position.
Carrier has undercut all pillars of the historicist position. Mythicism can't be ignored any longer.
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- 02-10-16
a wonderful analysis
I particularly enjoyed the use of stats and original source material. I found this much more compelling than mere argument from modern sources with no way to evaluate his arguments.
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The Facts You Need to Know
The best antidote to superstition and the best tool for liberating the future from the barbaric influence of ignorant mythology.
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- Eldavidthomas
- 09-19-19
Well thoughtout
Very in depth analysis and well established hypothesis on the mythical argument of Jesus' existence.
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- Irreverend Walker
- 05-22-15
A Devastatingly Effective Demonstration
After this book I am utterly convinced Jesus was a myth and nothing short of the discovery of significant new archeological evidence will have a chance to alter that conclusion.
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- Scott
- 07-08-15
Brilliant
A work of great intelligence and reason, exactly what this field needs, does not always work well as audiobook as many references and calculations but worth the trouble , I look forward to serious rebuttals or improvements
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- D Buchanan
- 03-10-18
This book supports its premise very well
This book seems intended for the scholar, (there are a few tedious parts) it is however, very thorough and fully supports its premise in showing just why there is good reason to doubt that Jesus was a historical figure.
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- Brian Dodson
- 06-28-16
This SHOULD convince you
Methodical and extremely detailed. Presuming Carrier's individual arguments and references are factually correct, the abundance of evidence he lays out in a disciplined, complex and structured logical format, should metaphorically (or literally) close the book. As Carrier himself states, apologists will (have) undoubtedly poke "holes" in specific lines of reasoning, but I dare you to conceive of a more disciplined and unbiased review of the debate. Listen, absorb the details, and follow Carrier's arguments. Cross reference as much as necessary, but I dare you to finish the book and still have the wherewithal to fully, or even mostly, dismiss the mythicist stance. Even if you feel it's reasonable to dismiss Bayes Theorem as a legitimate logical construct for these purposes, or if you doubt Carrier's assigned probabilities of arguments, common sense reasoning can still vouch for the vast majority of Carrier's points.
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- Christian A. Gerber
- 12-22-18
Ministers, Priests, read this book!
Great structure and easy to read! Take your time with this one! It’s well worth it! Ministers, Priests, read this; I challenge you all!
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- J. D.
- 04-22-16
Well Researched and We'll Explained
I thought this book was extremely well thought out and very thorough in supporting his theory.
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