Interesting account of historic changes and events

First. I am catholic and Italian, but I thought the book was very fair on all sides.
Many will listen to this book complaining about either what the pope did or didn’t do or what the revolutionaries did or didn’t do and act like they would have done something grand and enlightened. But let’s be honest with ourselves. We would have all likely either acted the same in their situation or maybe worse.
The book itself is interesting and fair if not a bit boring at times and drawn out. It felt like a lot more could have been fit in if somethings had been glanced through a bit quicker. Some parts just seem to drag on forever. You feel like yelling out; get on with it already! Conversation after conversation about the same thing.

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Enlightenment

This book fills many gaps in the history of the Papacy. I was not aware of the ferocious rebellion of the Papal States-which was justified. The Roman Church as governed by Pope Pius IX was a Medieval institution whose cruel methods of governing clearl in need of reform. The author has done an outstanding job describing the Roman/Italy Culture and the very difficult transition to modern era. I can better understand the nature of foreign military intervention as used by the Papacy against "his subjects" and especially the Jewish population of Rome. "Viva the Republic" What a great read!

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Enlightening read

I have really never had much interest in Catholicism or its history, but an NPR,review caught my attention prompting me to buy and read this fascinating book by a prized historian author. It is shocking to think as late as 1848 there was still papal rule. It really wasn't until after 1929 and Mussolini that the pope authority over the state changed and was reduced to Vatican only. And not until the 60s and Vatican 2 that many of the ancient beliefs about church authority and the notion of separation of church and state came to be. That's jjust crazy. We take for granted that separation and forget its importance. We still see glaring evidence of the issues it creates (think Arab nations), but forget it was not so long ago in our own western history when church was the state. I am ready for some more fascinating historical accounts from this author. As a note, this is a bit of a heavy read.

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The audio

I do not know if I gave the incorrect rating for performance due to my lack of understanding of performance. I took it to mean that the overall flow of the read. I had issues with the audio. I feel like I missed a lot of words from the audio due to the smashing or skipping of words throughout the story. I think the skips came through when there was a change in chapters or sections.

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Worthwhile, But Too Long And Too Focused

This is a well-written book, that tells an interesting story. However, a lot of other reviews criticize it as being too long for the topic. I have to agree. It gets bogged down in scene setting details. It could have used a lot lot less detail about the clothing of Giuseppe Garibaldi’s army as it entered into Rome, or the living conditions of Pius IX in exile in Gaeta.

Honestly, I think the scope of the book is too narrow. This book only really tells a third of the story of Pius IX’s papacy, and thus doesn’t really live up to its title. Important parts of Pius IX’s life and his affect on modernity are left out. How can you talk about Pius IX’s affect on modernity and the Catholic Church while only mentioning the First Vatican Council, the kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara, and the final, permanent destruction of the Papal States in a brief epilogue? I think this book would have been better as a biography of Pius IX, covering the entire arc of his life from hesitant liberal to reactionary theocrat to the “prisoner in the Vatican,” and how all of *this* affected the modern world. The broader focus would have told the whole story better than a few books about individual stories from Pius IX’s life.

All of this said, the book is interesting. I recommend it, and I intend to follow up with more of Mr. Kertzer’s books on Pius IX.

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Like a Suspense Thriller

I had no knowledge of the life of Pope Pius IX (“Pio Nono” to the Romans) or the troubles in Italy during his tenure. So as this history progressed, I found myself wholly absorbed in the car, waiting to see what happened next. There were multiple players in a game of international politics—the French, the Austrians, the other Italian kingdoms, as well as the conservative cardinals and the rebellious Roman liberals. The major issues, primarily the church’s control of state government and the unification of Italy, were fascinating. And after the Pope’s exile from Rome (not a spoiler—it’s disclosed in the first pages), the suspense turned on whether and when he might return to Rome.

David Kertzer has a novelist’s ability to draw characters and create suspense. Characters like Cardinal Antonelli, Alexis de Tocqueville and Garibaldi are well-drawn. The pope himself comes across as somewhat tragic, longing for his people’s affection but suffering because of his own weaknesses and his tendency to be manipulated by others.

The history was well-read. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

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Good but difficult

I loved Kertzer’s The Pope and Mussolini, hoped to enjoy this as much. I liked the reader and , broadly speaking , the story. The problem I had was trying my follow the literally dozens of the people who populate the book. For me, I would have been better off having an book on Kindle or the physical book, to keeping track.

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A good,but weak man who gave in too much.

I did not know much of European/papal history of the mid 19th century.He was a weak reed.

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a very good review of this time in history

is a very good book had a lot of interesting points unfortunately it ended rather quickly. Also had a few factual errors. most notably his comments on the infallibility of the Pope in secular matters

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Biased and limited in scope

This book is not a complete biography of Pius IX, but merely covers the period from his election to his return to Rome after the exile in-depth. The rest of his papacy is covered with the depth of an epilogue. Very little information is given by way of historical context prior to Pius's election. For the brief historical period covered by this book in-depth, the author clearly did his own original research into contemporary periodicals, letters, diaries, etc.

As with his other books, Kertzer came to this one with an agenda. He is ferociously anti-Catholic and seeks to demonize the Church for its failure to embrace his own 21st-century, liberal, pluralistic worldview in the early 19th century. While every historian approaches his subject with his own philosophical beliefs, good historians will offset these with a fair and sympathetic presentation of the reasons underlying opposing views. Kertzer does not both giving sympathetic or nuanced portrayals of the philosophical and theological beliefs of his historical subjects. In Kertzer's biography of Pius XI (The Pope and Mussolini), this shortcoming is offset by the considerable breadth and depth of historical research that went into that book, but given the extremely limited scope of the present book (The Pope Who Would Be King), the lack of philosophical nuance or even-handedness is a serious deficiency.

The reader did a good job and was hardly noticeable.

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