The Training Ground
Grant, Lee, Sherman, and Davis in the Mexican War 1846-1848
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Martin Dugard
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The Mexican War has faded from our national memory, but it was a struggle of enormous significance. It was the first U.S. war waged on foreign soil, and it nearly doubled the size of our nation. At this fascinating juncture of American history, a group of young men came together to fight as friends - only, years later, to fight again as enemies.
Full of dramatic battles, daring rescues, secret missions, soaring triumphs, and tragic losses, The Training Ground is history at its finest.
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- Narrated by: Jonathan Davis
- Length: 11 hrs and 22 mins
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Few Americans know that the Revolutionary War did not begin with the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776, but over a year earlier, in April 1775. Now historian Derek Beck draws on previously unpublished documents to tell the full story of the war before American independence - from both sides. Spanning the years 1773 to 1776, this audiobook sweeps listeners from the Boston Tea Party to the halls of Parliament - where Ben Franklin was almost run out of England for pleading on behalf of the colonies.
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Learned so much!
- By tracey68 on 10-15-17
By: Derek W. Beck
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The Great Anglo-Boer War
- By: Byron Farwell
- Narrated by: Nigel Patterson
- Length: 23 hrs and 24 mins
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The Great Boer War (1899-1902) - more properly the Great Anglo-Boer War - was one of the last romantic wars, pitting a sturdy, stubborn pioneer people fighting to establish the independence of their tiny nation against the British Empire at its peak of power and self-confidence. It was fought in the barren vastness of the South African veldt, and it produced in almost equal measure extraordinary feats of personal heroism, unbelievable examples of folly and stupidity, and many incidents of humor and tragedy.
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There are no winners in war, only victims.
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By: Byron Farwell
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The Strategy of Victory
- How General George Washington Won the American Revolution
- By: Thomas Fleming
- Narrated by: Michael Johnson
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General George Washington knew that having and maintaining an army of professional soldiers was the only way to win independence. As he fought bitterly with the leaders in Congress over the creation of a regular army, he patiently waited until his new army was ready for pitched battle. His first opportunity came late in 1776, following his surprise crossing of the Delaware River. In New Jersey, the strategy of victory was about to unfold.
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The detailed history
- By Sandy B on 11-26-24
By: Thomas Fleming
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Bust Hell Wide Open
- The Life of Nathan Bedford Forrest
- By: Samuel W. Mitcham Jr.
- Narrated by: Dan John Miller
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The legacy of General Nathan Bedford Forrest is deeply divisive. Best known for being accused of war crimes at the Battle of Fort Pillow and for his role as first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan - an organization he later denounced - Forrest has often been studied as a military figure, but never before studied as a fascinating individual who wrestled with the complex issues of his violent times. Bust Hell Wide Open is a comprehensive portrait of Nathan Bedford Forrest as a man: his achievements, failings, reflections, and regrets.
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- By Damian on 03-30-17
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Patriotic Fire
- Andrew Jackson and Jean Laffite at the Battle of New Orleans
- By: Winston Groom
- Narrated by: Grover Gardner
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A Great Book About A Fascinating Battle
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By: Winston Groom
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Gettysburg: The Last Invasion
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- Narrated by: Robertson Dean
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From the acclaimed Civil War historian, a brilliant new history–the most intimate and richly readable account we have had–of the climactic three-day battle of Gettysburg (July 1–3, 1863), which draws the reader into the heat, smoke, and grime of Gettysburg alongside the ordinary soldier, and depicts the combination of personalities and circumstances that produced the greatest battle of the Civil War, and one of the greatest in human history.
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A Fresh Look at a Famous Battle
- By W. F. Rucker on 07-03-13
By: Allen C. Guelzo
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Texian Iliad: A Military History of the Texas Revolution
- Texas Classics
- By: Stephen L. Hardin
- Narrated by: A.T. Chandler
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Hardly were the last shots fired at the Alamo before the Texas Revolution entered the realm of myth and controversy. French visitor Frederic Gaillardet called it a "Texian Iliad" in 1839, while American Theodore Sedgwick pronounced the war and its resulting legends "almost burlesque."
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Author writes history from a biased view
- By Greg Wilkinson on 04-24-19
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Terrible Swift Sword
- The Life of General Philip H. Sheridan
- By: Joseph Wheelan
- Narrated by: R.C. Bray
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Alongside Ulysses S. Grant and William Tecumseh Sherman, Philip H. Sheridan is the least known of the triumvirate of generals most responsible for winning the Civil War. Yet, before Sherman's famous march through Georgia, it was General Sheridan who introduced scorched-earth warfare to the South, and it was his Cavalry Corps that compelled Robert E. Lee's surrender at Appomattox Courthouse. Sheridan's innovative cavalry tactics and "total war" strategy became staples of 20th-century warfare.
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Full of history but just a little long
- By Dennis on 09-17-13
By: Joseph Wheelan
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Southern Storm
- Sherman's March to the Sea
- By: Noah Andre Trudeau
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Award-winning Civil War historian Noah Andre Trudeau has written a gripping, definitive new account that will stand as the last word on General William Tecumseh Sherman's epic march - a targeted strategy aimed to break not only the Confederate army but an entire society as well.
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Sherman's Webfeet
- By Rick on 06-23-13
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Born to Battle
- Grant and Forrest: Shiloh, Vicksburg, and Chattanooga: The Campaigns that Doomed the Confederacy
- By: Jack Hurst
- Narrated by: Joe Barrett
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Born to Battle examines the Civil War’s complex and decisive western theater through the exploits of its greatest figures: Ulysses S. Grant and Nathan Bedford Forrest. These two opposing giants squared off in some of the most epic campaigns of the war, starting at Shiloh and continuing through Perryville, Vicksburg, Chickamauga, and Chattanooga - battles in which the Union would slowly but surely divide the western Confederacy, setting the stage for the final showdowns of this bloody and protracted conflict.
By: Jack Hurst
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- S. Wells
- 08-11-23
Grant Was A 92Y, What?
First I'll go over the reader. I usually intend to audios at 1.25 or higher depending on the density of the content. The book isn't saturated with dates and over details military maneuvers. so listening at 1.50 was doable. Everything was pronounced clearly and I had enough time to mentally place the dates of events and visualize people and senses.
Now for the content itself, I believe another reader said it best take the books account with a grain of salt. No saying the author is lying about stuff. However, his interpretation of the events and rolls played by these leaders (on both) comes with a level of bias.
Nonetheless, even with the author's fan boy moments over Davis, I still think it's a book worth reading. If you're in the military (even none- commissioned side of the house) I believe these background stories shed some light how every general has to start somewhere. And any war can be sold to the public with a good narrative they can believe in.
In addition there are definitely tons of insightful and trivial pieces of information that would make for a intense game night for the hard-core pre-civil and civil war history buffs. Like who knew now that Grant was basically a 92Y,
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- Joel Langenfeld
- 11-18-08
Flawed, but engaging nevertheless.
The title pretty much sums up the authors main thesis - that the Mexican War was unique in both molding the characters of many notable figures of the Civil War, as well as strengthening the bonds they'd already formed through their tenure at West Point.
His coverage of the war itself sometimes takes a back seat to the "characterizations" of Grant, Lee, Jefferson Davis and George Meade, but is still compelling - especially from a political perspective. However, there were some gaffes in offhanded comments about the War of 1812 and the Civil War. For example, characterizing Pickett's Charge as a "one of the great *cavalry* charges of the Civil War" left one scratching their head - especially given that George Pickett was one of figures highlighted (albeit only briefly).
Still, the book is worth the effort, if only to shed some light on an often-ignored chapter of American history.
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- Samuel Stephen Ross
- 05-25-20
LOVE LOVE LOVE this book
This is THE best book I've ingested on the U.S./Mexican War period. It was SO engaging every step of the way. Everything was described with wonder and I loved hearing about Lee, Grant, Jackson, Davis, Lincoln et al years before they were involved in The Civil War. It also illustrates what genius Generals Zachary Taylor and Winfield Scott were.
Everything was perfect-- EXCEPT two small things I noticed right at the very end.
1-- The author said Zachary Taylor died in office during a celebration dedicating the newly completed Washington Monument. The 1850 celebration was a fundraiser. The Monument was never completed until 1885 and officially opened in 1888.
2-- The author also claimed James K. Polk died on June 15 1849 at the age of 53 just five months after leaving office. He did die in June-- but that was THREE months after leaving office. Back then, presidential terms ended in March-- NOT January.
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- Daniel
- 12-10-09
Good Book but not what was expected
Overall I enjoyed the book very much. That being said it was a bit short of what I expected. Most of the material was on Grant, with much less on Sherman, Lee and Davis. The author did provide alot of good material on the Mexican war, appreciated for those of us who don't know alot about it. Overall I would recommend the book.
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- Garrett Tuggle
- 05-14-18
The Mexican-American war told from the perspective of US Civil War heros
I have always had interest in books covering the US Civil War and wanted to read more about the war in Mexico. This book was perfect as it told the story from the perspective of the men so well-known from the US Civil War.
The book is detailed enough to be educational but not so much that it becomes dry.
The narration was well done.
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- Tom Wilson
- 12-10-22
Interesting story and a pleasure to listen
This is a relatively brief audiobook that focuses on the role that a group of young West Point graduates played in the Mexican-American War, most of whom who would go on to lead on either side of the American Civil War - including Grant and Lee. The book both highlights a lesser-known conflict in American history and humanizes the real people who are its characters. The narration is very good, although a bit monotone, and the effort to give characters a distinctive "voice" perfunctory. Not meant to be a comprehensive history of the Mexican-American War, the book succeeds as stoey with personal conflicts, triumphs, and failures.
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- William
- 07-14-08
Another great Mexican War Book
Thne author did a great job of following the life of Lee. Grant Davis and Longstreet. The book also covers the politics of Polk and the leadership of Taylor and Scott. Anyone how is interested in the Civil War will love this book
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- Richard
- 05-16-09
Excellent Story
Not a detailed history of the war, but a researched element of the conflict. For Civil War buffs, if you haven't read about the details of this conflict, you will miss the reason why your favorite General (blue or gray) is the way they were. The author keeps you focused on the reason for the story, not a diatribe on how the war was unjust. It will leave you wondering how this "band of brothers" could ever fight each other. Maybe there was something to 1860's state loyalty. Manifest Destiny has lost its meaning to modern scholars, but the future soldiers for and against slavery were trained for the horrific clash of the Civil War. The American character had been established 150 years before, but it was clearly demonstrated during the short 18 months war as told by the author. Even our enemies today would do well to study this American way of fighting before starting any future conflicts against the US.
The author would do well to write a definitive account of the Battle of Monterrey and/or Mexico City. Not one about the Campaigns, these have been done. No revisionism typical of modern histories, but recognizing the validity of Manifest Destiny of 1846. The bravery of both the American and Mexican soldiers deserve any detailed accounting of the war.
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- Greg Brown
- 12-26-21
Very good review of the future leaders in Civil Wa
Very good detail typical of Dugard that help understand the life changing events for many future Civil War generals. The operations and responsibilities that caused these men to change, grow into what would soon develop. A good prep for the Civil War fan.
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- Colin
- 02-11-11
Just not as interesting
I think there's a reason the Mexican War isn't more talked about; it wasn't that interesting!
Dugard is a great researcher and writer but he should have decided to either write about one or two of the important generals or just written about the war.
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