Thunder in the Mountains
Chief Joseph, Oliver Otis Howard, and the Nez Perce War
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Oliver Otis Howard thought he was a man of destiny. Chosen to lead the Freedmen's Bureau after the Civil War, the Union Army general was entrusted with the era's most crucial task: helping millions of former slaves claim the rights of citizens. He was energized by the belief that abolition and Reconstruction, the country's great struggles for liberty and equality, were God's plan for himself and the nation.
But as the nation's politics curdled in the 1870s, General Howard exiled himself from Washington, DC, rejoined the army, and was sent across the continent to command forces in the Pacific Northwest. Shattered by Reconstruction's collapse, he assumed a new mission: forcing Native Americans to become Christian farmers on government reservations. Howard's plans for redemption in the West ran headlong into the resistance of Chief Joseph, a young Nez Perce leader in northeastern Oregon who refused to leave his ancestral land.
Claiming equal rights for Native Americans, Joseph was determined to find his way to the center of American power and convince the government to acknowledge his people's humanity and capacity for citizenship.
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Little Bighorn and Custer are names synonymous in the American imagination with unmatched bravery and spectacular defeat. Mythologized as Custer's Last Stand, the June 1876 battle has been equated with other famous last stands, from the Spartans' defeat at Thermopylae to Davy Crockett at the Alamo.
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A filtered rehash for these more enlightened times
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Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull: Their names are iconic, their significance in American history undeniable. Together, these two Lakota chiefs, one a fabled warrior and the other a revered holy man, crushed George Armstrong Custer’s vaunted Seventh Cavalry. Yet their legendary victory at the Little Big Horn has overshadowed the rest of their rich and complex lives. Now, based on years of research and drawing on a wealth of previously ignored primary sources, award-winning author Mark Lee Gardner delivers the definitive chronicle, thrillingly told, of these extraordinary Indigenous leaders.
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Gripping
- By T. H. on 12-11-22
By: Mark Lee Gardner
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With powerful narrative drive and vivid writing, Young Washington recounts the wilderness trials, controversial battles, and emotional entanglements that transformed Washington from a temperamental striver into a mature leader. Enduring terrifying summer storms and subzero winters imparted resilience and self-reliance, helping prepare him for what he would one day face at Valley Forge. Leading the Virginia troops into battle taught him to set aside his own relentless ambitions and stand in solidarity with those who looked to him for leadership.
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Loved learning how a greater leader became one!
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The great Oglala Sioux chief Red Cloud was the only Plains Indian to defeat the United States Army in a war, forcing the American government to sue for peace in a conflict named for him. At the peak of their chief’s powers, the Sioux could claim control of one-fifth of the contiguous United States. But unlike Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, or Geronimo, the fog of history has left Red Cloud strangely obscured. Now, thanks to painstaking research by two award-winning authors, his incredible story can finally be told.
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The Irresistable Force Paradox: Manifest Destiny
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On New Year's Day in 1870, 10-year-old Adolph Korn was kidnapped by an Apache raiding party. Traded to Comanches, he thrived in the rough nomadic existence, quickly becoming one of the tribe's fiercest warriors. Forcibly returned to his parents after three years, Korn never adjusted to life in white society. He spent his last years living in a cave, all but forgotten by his family. That is, until Scott Zesch stumbled upon his great-great-great-uncle's grave. Determined to understand how such a "good boy" could have become Indianized so completely, Zesch traveled across the West.
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A taste of real life on the prairies of the west.
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Dee Brown's eloquent, meticulously documented account of the systematic destruction of the American Indian during the second half of the 19th century uses council records, autobiographies, and firsthand descriptions. Brown allows great chiefs and warriors of the Dakota, Ute, Sioux, Cheyenne, and other tribes to tell us in their own words of the battles, massacres, and broken treaties that finally left them demoralized and defeated.
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Easy to Listen To, Difficult to Hear About
- By J.B. on 04-12-16
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Blood Moon is the story of the century-long blood feud between two rival Cherokee chiefs from the early years of the United States through the infamous Trail of Tears and into the Civil War. While little remembered today, their mutual hatred shaped the tragic history of the tribe far more than anyone, even the reviled President Andrew Jackson, ever did.
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The Real Story
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In the first and most reliable biography of Daniel Boone in more than 50 years, award-winning historian Faragher brilliantly portrays America's famous frontier hero while illuminating the American hero-making process itself. Drawing from popular narrative, the public record, scraps of documentation from Boone's own hand, and a treasure trove of reminiscences gathered by nineteenth-century antiquarians, Faragher uses the methods of new social history to create a portrait of the man and the times he helped shape.
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Excellent book for history readers
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A rousing and meticulously researched account of the notorious Battle of Little Big Horn and its unforgettable cast of characters from Sitting Bull to Custer himself.
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Terrific story of Custer, the Little Big Horn
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By: James Donovan
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- Tristan
- 05-10-18
Interesting but lenghty.
Enjoyed the window into this slice of history. The lead up to the conflict was well explained and thorough. The narrator was very good and contributed to the flow of the book. The narrative however was lengthy in some areas and incomplete in others. So much information was presented about Howard, which ended up being of little advance to the narrative, but also of sub-par general interest. Loved the insight on Joseph's character, but he almost completely dissapears during the most crucial moments of armed conflict. To understand his role during these moments are key, yet we are left wanting. Yellow Wolf takes over during these moments, but again he also dissapears when moments of negotiation and diplomacy arise. Both characters are crucial in Nez Perce history, but yet we lack a continuous account, the other seemingly picking and choosing the moments they appear in his story or, more likely, where he has enough sources to put forward some analysis. He also focuses on Wood, who is himself and much more intriguing character than Howard, but who's impact toward the Nez Perce is almost negligeable. All in all, the author eleborated on Howard and Wood, which is difficult to defend according to the announced theme and title of the book, while the information about the Nez Perce characters have huge gaps.
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- Mike Mead
- 06-03-21
while very, very long
this is a great story, well told and well written. despite the length I recommend it.
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- Buretto
- 10-31-17
Even with best intentions, it's an atrocity
This is an engaging, thorough telling of the story of the Nez Perce. Perhaps a bit tangential at times, but it only serves to draw the wider canvas. The book gives a more comprehensive view of members of both sides of the conflict than is usually found.
It details building from what may have been well intentioned, though bigoted and paternalistic, efforts to civilize native peoples, to all-out bloody war when those same native people refuse to accept that the benefits of a free society don't apply to them. How long can people accept murder without chance of redress because of the color of their skin or their choice of spirituality? When that dam breaks, the rationalization of quelling the savage revolt is cast. It's the same story, to a greater or lesser degree, all over the continent.
Of particular interest was that it paints Howard in a sympathetic light, noting his work in the Freedmen's Bureau, though never quite absolving him of the inherent supremacism in his evangelical Christianity. It's very measured and does well to maintain objectivity. But ultimately, the truth is the truth.
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- haynes9
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Balanced, Fair, Fascinating
The book was very well presented. The voice of the narrator was easy on the ears. I appreciated the pronunciation of the Nez Perce names.
This book seems to make a good effort to present a balanced presentation of Joseph and Howard. Neither man was villified or exalted without fault. It seemed to me that Mr. Sharfstein's agenda was truth. Thoroughly enjoyed the presentation. Highly recommended.
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- slangest
- 07-17-19
A gripping story
Brilliant details bring color and vital depth to this compelling story. Enjoy, ponder, share again.
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- az-joe
- 01-01-20
Very good
I really enjoyed the book and joe Barrett is wonderful narrator. Well researched I learned a lot. Great appreciation for chief Joseph
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- Michael M.
- 08-19-17
Extraordinary history lesson
This book portrays the history of the Nez Perce flight and all the circumstances surrounding that part of the nations history in a way I have never heard before. Detailed but never tedious; a can't put it down until you are done book.
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- Janushka,
- 02-20-18
One of the best books on this chapter of history
I was moved by the poetic prose and intricate detail. I've read several books on the Nez Perce War. This may be the best. It starts slowly with background but I understood later why it was necessary. The author tells many stories and biographies within the larger narrative.
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- rjay
- 03-14-19
LOTS of Details
It's no surprise that an 18-hour-long book will have lots of details -- about the protagonists, supporting players, geography, politics, etc. Learning of Howard's Reconstruction role, of the life of Chief Joseph and his band, and of all their post-war lives really filled out the story of how and why the war happened. I enjoyed the book and recommend it. Anyone who has read of the Lewis & Clark Corps of Discovery will recognize many of the locales. I enjoyed listening to the narrator pronouncing the Nez Perce names, which he did very well. What was troublesome, however, was the narrator's voice consistently dropping to a near-whisper at the ends of words, phrases and sentences making them unclear.
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- Chris Hummel
- 08-05-23
Well-Written and Well-Rounded
Though its focus on individuals sometimes takes the work in unexpected directions, the author both manages to make his central points--the changing nature of American citizenship and identity filtered through the lives of his main characters and the key role of Joseph as an advocate for the rights of his people--and to tell the story of Joseph's Band of the Nez Perce and their military opponents in a balanced, intelligent, and moving way. Having just visited the Bear Paw Battlefield in Montana, where Joseph and many of his band surrendered, I found the work especially meaningful. Though some have complained a bit about the length of the narrative, the journey is ultimately valuable and enlightening.
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