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Lessons from the Fractured Relationship of John Owen and Richard Baxter
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Two Oppositional Figures in Church History Shed Light on Division in the Church Today
Our current culture seems to be increasingly divided on countless issues, including those affecting the church. But for centuries, theological disagreements, political differences, and issues relating to church leadership have made it challenging for Christians to foster unity and love for one another.
In this book, author Tim Cooper explores this polarization through the lives of two oppositional figures in church history: John Owen and Richard Baxter. Cooper highlights their individual stories while showing how their contrasting life experiences, personalities, and temperaments led to their inability to work together. After exploring these lessons from the past, listeners will gain insights into their own relationships, ultimately learning how to love and live in harmony with their fellow believers despite their disagreements.
- Timely: In today's deeply divided culture, this book offers past examples to help spur unity among believers today
- Historical: Biographical examination of two Puritan writers from the 17th century: John Owen and Richard Baxter
- Accessible: Short format and crisp writing style offer an engaging story with no background knowledge required
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Communion with God
- By: John Owen
- Narrated by: Wayne Evans
- Length: 15 hrs and 35 mins
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Focusing on one of the most fundamental aspects of the Christian walk, John Owen delves into the heart of any healthy relationship—communication. Owen emphasizes how crucial it is to understand the Trinity and how the importance of communion applies to each person of God. Owen explains that in fully understanding the Triune God, it is clear that each part has a unique role and therefore encourages unique relationships and communication with believers. A healthy Christian life is grown through open communication and a dedicated connection with God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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Gave up the struggle
- By Pilgrim 7 on 11-26-24
By: John Owen
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Digital Liturgies
- Rediscovering Christian Wisdom in an Online Age
- By: Samuel James
- Narrated by: Samuel James
- Length: 5 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
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With advancements in internet technology, people can get instant answers to just about any of their questions, connect long distance with family and friends, and stay informed with events around the world in real time. In Digital Liturgies, tech-realist Samuel D. James examines the connection between patterns in technology and human desires. Everyone longs for a glimpse of heaven; James argues they are just looking for it in the wrong place—the internet.
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Excellent analysis of our digital age
- By Jeremy Carr on 08-31-24
By: Samuel James
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Name Above All Names
- By: Alistair Begg, Sinclair B. Ferguson
- Narrated by: Angus King
- Length: 5 hrs and 42 mins
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Jesus Christ has been given the name above all names, the highest seat of honor, the right to reign and rule. Yet the busyness of our lives and the diversions of this world often distract us from knowing the most important person we could ever know. Perhaps we need some help to see Jesus afresh. In this thoughtful study and worshipful reflection, two influential pastors draw on decades of pastoral experience in order to guide us through the whole sweep of Scripture and examine seven key qualities of Jesus's identity and ministry.
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Truth and clarity.
- By Kindle Customer on 08-25-23
By: Alistair Begg, and others
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Worthy
- Living in Light of the Gospel (Growing Gospel Integrity)
- By: Sinclair B. Ferguson
- Narrated by: Angus King
- Length: 2 hrs and 34 mins
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While Jesus offers forgiveness for believers who sin, Scripture makes it clear that Christians are to pursue obedience and holiness. So what does it mean to walk in a manner that's "worthy of the gospel of Christ" (Phil. 1:27), and how should that look in the life of a Christ follower? In this short, accessible guide, theologian Sinclair Ferguson explains the importance of living worthy of the gospel, why the principle is often forgotten, and how it's cultivated.
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A single focus! To be found worthy
- By Amazon Customer on 12-20-24
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Crisis of Confidence
- Reclaiming the Historic Faith in a Culture Consumed with Individualism and Identity
- By: Carl R. Trueman
- Narrated by: R. E. Biddulph
- Length: 8 hrs and 8 mins
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Historic statements of faith—such as the Heidelberg Catechism, the Apostles’ Creed, and the Westminster Confession of Faith—have helped the Christian church articulate and adhere to God’s truth for centuries. However, many modern evangelicals reject these historic documents and the practices of catechesis, proclaiming their commitment to “no creed but the Bible.” And yet, in today’s rapidly changing culture, ancient liturgical tradition is not only biblical—it’s essential.
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Very relevant to this time in the modern church life.
- By Randy McLemore on 05-16-24
By: Carl R. Trueman
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The Mortification of Sin
- By: John Owen
- Narrated by: Tim H. Dixon
- Length: 4 hrs and 36 mins
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In The Mortification of Sin, Owen states not only that sin remains an active and negative force on the lives of Christians, but also that there is a highly effective way to combat that evil force and temptation along with it. Largely addressing Romans 8, this work extracts understanding and brings clarity to the listener on these widely discussed topics. Despite such a potentially disheartening revelation of the impact and influence of sin, Owen reminds the listener of the triumph of Christ.
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Skilled narrator
- By Raggle on 03-27-23
By: John Owen
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Communion with God
- By: John Owen
- Narrated by: Wayne Evans
- Length: 15 hrs and 35 mins
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Focusing on one of the most fundamental aspects of the Christian walk, John Owen delves into the heart of any healthy relationship—communication. Owen emphasizes how crucial it is to understand the Trinity and how the importance of communion applies to each person of God. Owen explains that in fully understanding the Triune God, it is clear that each part has a unique role and therefore encourages unique relationships and communication with believers. A healthy Christian life is grown through open communication and a dedicated connection with God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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Gave up the struggle
- By Pilgrim 7 on 11-26-24
By: John Owen
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Digital Liturgies
- Rediscovering Christian Wisdom in an Online Age
- By: Samuel James
- Narrated by: Samuel James
- Length: 5 hrs and 1 min
- Unabridged
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With advancements in internet technology, people can get instant answers to just about any of their questions, connect long distance with family and friends, and stay informed with events around the world in real time. In Digital Liturgies, tech-realist Samuel D. James examines the connection between patterns in technology and human desires. Everyone longs for a glimpse of heaven; James argues they are just looking for it in the wrong place—the internet.
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Excellent analysis of our digital age
- By Jeremy Carr on 08-31-24
By: Samuel James
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Name Above All Names
- By: Alistair Begg, Sinclair B. Ferguson
- Narrated by: Angus King
- Length: 5 hrs and 42 mins
- Unabridged
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Jesus Christ has been given the name above all names, the highest seat of honor, the right to reign and rule. Yet the busyness of our lives and the diversions of this world often distract us from knowing the most important person we could ever know. Perhaps we need some help to see Jesus afresh. In this thoughtful study and worshipful reflection, two influential pastors draw on decades of pastoral experience in order to guide us through the whole sweep of Scripture and examine seven key qualities of Jesus's identity and ministry.
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Truth and clarity.
- By Kindle Customer on 08-25-23
By: Alistair Begg, and others
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Worthy
- Living in Light of the Gospel (Growing Gospel Integrity)
- By: Sinclair B. Ferguson
- Narrated by: Angus King
- Length: 2 hrs and 34 mins
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While Jesus offers forgiveness for believers who sin, Scripture makes it clear that Christians are to pursue obedience and holiness. So what does it mean to walk in a manner that's "worthy of the gospel of Christ" (Phil. 1:27), and how should that look in the life of a Christ follower? In this short, accessible guide, theologian Sinclair Ferguson explains the importance of living worthy of the gospel, why the principle is often forgotten, and how it's cultivated.
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A single focus! To be found worthy
- By Amazon Customer on 12-20-24
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Rejoice and Tremble
- The Surprising Good News of the Fear of the Lord
- By: Michael Reeves
- Narrated by: Michael Reeves
- Length: 5 hrs and 15 mins
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Fear is one of the strongest human emotions — and one that often baffles Christians. In the Bible the picture can seem equally confusing: Is fear a good thing or a bad thing? And what does it mean to “fear the Lord”? In this audiobook, Michael Reeves clears the clouds of confusion and shows that the fear of the Lord is not a negative thing at all, but an intensely delighted wondering at God, our creator and redeemer.
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Excellent content. Excellent reader.
- By BRK on 09-19-22
By: Michael Reeves
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The Mystery of the Holy Spirit
- By: R. C. Sproul
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 4 hrs and 12 mins
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Dealing sensitively with touchstone issues, R.C. Sproul sends a challenge to deepen your understanding of the Holy Spirit through the scriptures. Come to know this mysterious member of the Trinity and see his work in your life.
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person and work of the Holy Spirit
- By Matt Johnson on 04-14-17
By: R. C. Sproul
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Jonathan Edwards
- By: George M. Marsden
- Narrated by: Jim Denison
- Length: 24 hrs and 29 mins
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In this definitive and long-awaited biography, Jonathan Edwards emerges as both a great American and a brilliant Christian. George Marsden evokes the world of colonial New England in which Edwards was reared - a frontier civilization at the center of a conflict between Native Americans, French Catholics, and English Protestants. Drawing on newly available sources, Marsden demonstrates how these cultural and religious battles shaped Edwards' life and thought.
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What a gift
- By Rebecca Shaver on 01-15-20
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Humility
- The Joy of Self-Forgetfulness (Growing Gospel Integrity)
- By: Gavin Ortlund
- Narrated by: Tom Parks
- Length: 2 hrs and 18 mins
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There are many misconceptions about what it means to be humble. Some think that being humble means hiding your talents and abilities or being weak and inauthentic. But the Bible paints a different picture—defining humility as a self-forgetfulness leading to joy and explaining that it is a life-giving virtue that frees you from the restricting needs of your ego. In Humility: The Joy of Self-Forgetfulness, Gavin Ortlund encourages listeners that humility is not just an abstract virtue but a mark of gospel integrity.
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Fuel for my soul 🔥
- By Taylor Racich on 01-20-23
By: Gavin Ortlund
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The Rare Jewel of Christian Contentment
- By: Jeremiah Burroughs
- Narrated by: Derek Perkins
- Length: 8 hrs and 25 mins
- Unabridged
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The Rare Jewel of Christian Contentment by Jeremiah Burroughs is a classic work featuring clear and simple instructions on how to be content as a Christian. Burroughs will teach you that contentment lies in subtraction, not addition; that the workings of Christianity are nothing like what you thought them to be; and that once you have learned the way from Christ's word, you will be able to attain contentment as you never before imagined.
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critical book for all Christians
- By Daniel Nalbach on 01-01-17
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The Heart of Jesus
- How He Really Feels About You
- By: Dane Ortlund
- Narrated by: Dane Ortlund
- Length: 2 hrs and 5 mins
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In this concise book adapted from the bestselling Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund, listeners will encounter Jesus's tender heart for sinners and sufferers. Written for a wide audience—including younger listeners, new Christians, and those just beginning to explore the Christian faith—it features easy-to-follow terms and helpful explanations. The chapters are also short enough to listen to at bedtime, around the dinner table, or during lunchtime. The Heart of Jesus dives deep into Bible passages that speak of who Christ is, comforting and sustaining listeners with the affections of Christ.
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Christ comfort and love
- By Lee on 08-20-24
By: Dane Ortlund
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Marriage and the Mystery of the Gospel
- By: Ray Ortlund
- Narrated by: Al Kessel
- Length: 3 hrs and 44 mins
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Marriage is so much more than a human institution. The Bible teaches that marriage was created by God and reveals an eternal mystery - the mystery of the Gospel. In this way marriage paints a picture of our salvation in and through Jesus Christ. In the second volume in the Short Studies in Biblical Theology series, Pastor Ray Ortlund traces the Bible's teaching on marriage from Genesis to Revelation - revealing how marriage stands at the center of God's redemptive purposes for the world.
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Great book about marriage
- By sandra on 11-22-16
By: Ray Ortlund
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The Lord of Psalm 23
- Jesus Our Shepherd, Companion, and Host
- By: David Gibson, Sinclair B. Ferguson - foreword
- Narrated by: David Gibson, Sinclair B. Ferguson
- Length: 3 hrs and 54 mins
- Unabridged
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Psalm 23 is one of the most recognizable passages in the whole Bible. Though relatively short, this poetic depiction of God’s love epitomizes Christ’s goodness and provision as he leads his children. Even lifelong Christians will find fresh encouragement by closely studying these familiar words. David Gibson walks through each verse in Psalm 23, thoroughly examining its 3 depictions of the believer’s union with Christ as sheep and shepherd, traveler and companion, and guest and host.
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love the One who is always
- By P.K. El Cajon on 12-29-24
By: David Gibson, and others
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Justification
- An Introduction (Short Studies in Systematic Theology)
- By: Thomas R. Schreiner
- Narrated by: Adam Verner
- Length: 5 hrs and 16 mins
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When we see the fallenness of the world, it is often challenging to understand how sinners can stand before a holy God, but the gospel gives hope―justification that comes through Jesus Christ. This doctrine is essential to the gospel but has sparked countless academic and theological disagreements throughout church history, even contributing to the Protestant Reformation in the sixteenth century.
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One with My Lord
- The Life-Changing Reality of Being in Christ
- By: Sam Allberry
- Narrated by: Sam Allberry
- Length: 4 hrs and 15 mins
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In One with My Lord, Sam Allberry examines the doctrine of union with Christ through a rich study of New Testament scriptures. Each chapter is short enough to be listened to as a devotional, giving believers a fresh lens to view the gospel daily as they pursue holiness, resist sin, build community, and worship God. In a time when people are searching for a place to belong, One with My Lord reminds believers that they have a perfect home in Christ.
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Deepening my understanding of what it means to be a child of God
- By Kyuhoon & Marie on 10-09-24
By: Sam Allberry
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The Glory of Christ
- By: John Owen
- Narrated by: Wayne Evans
- Length: 11 hrs and 3 mins
- Unabridged
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A writing born out of the desire to know Christ more fully and to understand His glory and sacrifice more completely, this work inspires and encourages an increase in both faith and theological understanding. Focusing on the role, nature, and example of Jesus Christ, Owen ties together the Savior’s sacrifice on Earth to His ultimate glory and transformation at the Father’s side. Owen’s words reflect and therefore spark a unique craving to personally witness Christ in all of His heavenly and fully realized glory.
By: John Owen
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Calvin on the Christian Life
- Glorifying and Enjoying God Forever
- By: Michael Horton
- Narrated by: Tim H. Dixon
- Length: 10 hrs and 7 mins
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John Calvin, a man adored by some and maligned by others, stands as a legendary figure in Christian history. In Calvin on the Christian Life, professor Michael Horton offers us fresh insights into the Reformer’s personal piety and practical theology by allowing Calvin to speak in his own words.
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Outstanding.
- By Chris on 06-19-24
By: Michael Horton
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- Anonymous User
- 08-25-24
Excellent and relevant resource!
Incredible! I appreciate the wisdom offered here. I will be considering the points made in this book in my own interactions. We live in a politically volatile time - I believe this is a must read for those in ministry (vocational or otherwise).
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- Phil
- 08-04-24
Conflict with a Christian brother requires other brothers
It seems that there was no one to bring the two men together and no one who was strong enough and had the love to try and help them reconcile. I strongly admire Owen and have a bias for his writings and personality. Baxter in my opinion was the one more in the wrong. It seems that Baxter refusal to use words, his own words to define his position on certain doctrines and was hard to handle. I feel that Baxter was hard hearted and viscous to Owen. I don’t think I would have wanted to be in Baxter’s Church. I’ve read his book the “Reformed Pastor” and think it would have been hard to be under him. I don’t see gentleness or compassion but a harder man than I would trust myself too. However I don’t know Owen well personally yet his doctrine is spot on and accurate most precious. All that being said it is sad that these two great leaders who I have leaned from couldn’t get along and had no happy ending. May the Lord help us to live peaceful with all men.
What I take from this book that we must work to understand each others past and work to accurately portray each others position. We must try and understand each others goals and fears so we don’t assume the worst. We must assume the best in love and try hard, work with utmost effort to find the good and focus on that most and gently work on what might be wrong. We must be humble our self to the possible outcome of our own wrong thinking and positions. God help us!
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