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161: First Date Magic: How to Get the Conversation Flowing Like a Pro 🗣️

161: First Date Magic: How to Get the Conversation Flowing Like a Pro 🗣️

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Let’s face it—first dates can be awkward. You’re sitting across from someone new, trying to figure out if there’s a spark… while also wondering what the heck to say next. Sound familiar?

In this juicy episode of the Smart Dating Academy Podcast, I sit down with the incredible Dr. Jess Carbino—often dubbed “the Dr. Ruth of the Swipe Right generation.” With a resume that includes time as the in-house sociologist at Tinder and Bumble (yes, really!), and now on her second doctorate in clinical psychology, Jess brings savvy to the world of modern dating.


Together, we dig into the art of creating real conversation on first dates—the kind that moves beyond surface-level chit-chat and into connection territory. 💡

You’ll learn:

  • Why small talk isn’t actually small (and how to make it meaningful)

  • How to avoid the dreaded interview-date vibe

  • Easy, go-to questions that open hearts and spark chemistry ❤️

  • What people really want to talk about—and how to listen with intention

  • The surprising power of self-disclosure and emotional availability (without oversharing)

Whether you're getting ready for date #1, date #100, or just starting to dip your toe back in the dating pool, this episode is your conversational compass. Trust me—after hearing this, you’ll walk into your next first date feeling confident, curious, and totally in your element.

👉 Tune in now and let’s get the convo going!



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