In this episode, we sit down with one of Singapore's most iconic power couples in tech — Der Shing Lim and Shao-Ning Huang, Co-Founders of AngelCentral. From meeting at the University of Michigan to bootstrapping JobsCentral (which they later sold to CareerBuilder), raising four boys, and then founding AngelCentral — their journey has been nothing short of incredible. We go deep into building businesses as a couple, bootstrapping during the dotcom era, becoming active angel investors, and reflecting on how Singapore's startup ecosystem has evolved. Also: what’s tougher — startups or parenting?

Hosts:

Michael Smith Jr: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/smittysgp/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Razko Kotler: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/razko282/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Guests:

Shao-Ning Huang: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaoning/

Der Shing Lim: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dershing/

Links Mentioned:

• AngelCentral: https://www.angelcentral.co
• JobsCentral (now part of CareerBuilder): https://www.careerbuilder.com.sg/
• Grab: https://www.grab.com
• Carousell: https://www.carousell.sg
• ShopBack: https://www.shopback.sg
• PatSnap: https://www.patsnap.com
• Entrepreneurs First: https://www.joinef.com
• JobStreet (now SEEK): https://www.jobstreet.com.sg
• JobsDB: https://www.jobsdb.com
• Duolingo: https://www.duolingo.com

Books & Media Mentioned:

• Squid Game: https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344
• The Substance: https://www.variancefilms.com/project/the-substance
• The Expats: https://www.amazon.com/Expats-Season-1/dp/B0CMHG544V