“Banter opens the door, but empathy keeps you in the room.”

- Jill Robin Payne

In this episode of Turmeric & Tequila™, host Kristen Olson welcomes the dynamic and insightful Jill Robin Payne, MA, LPC-S, LCDC—renowned psychotherapist, author, and creator of Bempathy®. With over 40 years of experience in mental health and communication, Jill dives into how blending humor (banter) with empathy creates meaningful, lasting human connection. We talk about therapy, social media, family dynamics, dating, boundaries, and how to navigate difficult conversations with grace, humor, and authenticity. Jill shares stories from her decades of experience and explains how Bempathy® helps people reconnect—especially in today’s overstimulated, under-communicated world. If you want to improve your relationships, understand others better, and learn how to banter with heart, this is a must-listen episode. VIDEO: https://youtu.be/ViyYSXm5LZk?si=nGKvkG4yyzAobL5A

Time Stamps:

00:00 – Welcome + intro to Jill Robin Payne
02:45 – The evolution of Jill’s 40+ year career in therapy
06:30 – What is Bempathy®? And why it matters today
11:20 – Banter vs. sarcasm: communication that connects
15:50 – Navigating generational trauma and healing
20:10 – Bempathy® in dating, parenting, and leadership
25:45 – The role of humor in therapy and relationships
31:30 – Jill’s experience with media and speaking
36:20 – Real-world examples of Bempathy® in action
41:00 – Jill’s call to action: be bold, be kind, be real
44:50 – Where to follow Jill and learn more

Jill Robin Payne, MA, LPC-S, LCDC, is a trailblazing psychotherapist, author, and communication coach with over 40 years of experience. Creator of Bempathy®, a unique reciprocal communication method combining banter with empathy, Jill empowers individuals to build genuine connections. A dynamic speaker and media guest, she’s been featured on national TV, radio, and podcasts. With a rich career spanning groundbreaking internships, innovative therapy, and global lectures, Jill’s work inspires lasting impact and transformative relationships.

🌐 Website: https://jillrobinpayne.com
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