• ALL THE PRESIDENTS’ MONEY

  • Oct 3 2024
  • Length: 33 mins
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ALL THE PRESIDENTS’ MONEY

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  • How have our Presidents' money stories affected their lives and trajectories before, during, and after their terms? Have the Presidents' finances affected policy? What stories do they teach the rest of us? As we head into election season, MEGAN GORMAN has released a terrific book on US Presidents and their personal finances. She is a tax attorney and wealth manager – takes readers on a rollicking ride, full of history and personal finance lessons, to understand the intimate money stories of our most famous presidents in her highly anticipated new book, ALL THE PRESIDENTS’ MONEY: How the Men who Governed America Governed Their Money Megan Gorman's "All The Presidents' Money" Megan has spent her career advising some of the wealthy. She parlayed her interest in history and politics with her career expertise to analyze our Presidents relationship with money. The stories of our Presidents' personal finances not only give insight into their leadership style, but they teach lessons for the rest of us as well. What inspired you to write about the US presidents' relationship with money? Since I was six, I’ve always been obsessed with learning about the presidents. There’s an archetype that I was drawn to: a man from an ordinary background that through hard work and luck makes his way to the top. We have many presidential examples in our history: Lincoln, Eisenhower, Grant, Johnson, Truman, Ford, Reagan, and on. Could this same story happen now? Maybe, but it’s not as easy as it was before. https://www.amazon.com/All-Presidents-Money-Governed-America-ebook/dp/B0D3T7TGMZ/ Megan Gorman's Presidents' Relationship with Money How did you approach researching the book, since financial details are often private? I usually started by reading a book on the president and looking for little items – education, jobs, homes – and then ferreting out primary source documents. But the most useful items are the letters. Letters were where a lot of financial discussions occurred, from Jefferson and his financial challenges to Harry Truman lamenting to his future wife about whether he will ever find financial success. The presidential libraries and museums’ archives were also unbelievable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvMoUuruCzU Did you notice any common themes or patterns in the presidents' financial behaviors and decision-making? A lot of bad financial decision making occurs when emotion controls the situation. For example, President George Washington asked James Monroe to go to France. Monroe agreed even though he had a substantial plantation at home that needed significant management. Monroe got to France and realized that to succeed, he needs gravitas. In 1790s France, that means having the right home to entertain in. So he went out and bought a house for the US with his own money – doesn’t ask permission and doesn’t think about the obligations back home. His salary doesn’t cover half of what he is spending. When Monroe’s appointment is over, he sells the house at a loss. Money is emotion – and managing it is very hard for all of us. You write in All The Presidents' Money that "wealth happens at the intersection of opportunity and discipline." What do you mean? We talk a lot about financial literacy and having strong financial skills. But the truth is you could be the greatest budgeter in the world, but if you have no money coming in, it’s a moot point. Budgeting, risk tolerance, connecting with your future self – all of those things are the framework of finance – but you need your shot at wealth building, to put it in Hamilton parlance. You need to have the ability to make a living. If you have that, and you use financial literacy, you can build financial resilience. Sounds easy, but in the current stage we are in the US, it’s gotten a lot harder. Several presidents had a strong aversion to debt. Do you think this is a valuable mindset for financial success?
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