• Nonsense and Sensibility: Part 2 (Erica Cobb Joins to Discuss RHOM, RHOA, and The Valley)
    Jun 28 2025
    The journey continues. Over the course of this two-parter, Sarah and AG guest cohost Erica Cobb unpack Julia's attacks against Guerdy (and the cast's muted response), Kiki and Lisa's vulnerability talking about parent/child relationships, estrangement, and the choices made amidst the nuance, Janet's dinner outburst, what Angela shared about Phaedra's potential/alleged role in that on-camera "moment" about Charles, Brit and Kelli's friendship fallout, and whether Claudia Jordan could make a future return. No pickles were harmed in the making of this episode - it's Andy's Girls, Episode 681! Part 2! Read Chard's Sayonara Letter: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/providence-ri/richard-galli-12112409 Support the sass: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/damegalli JOIN/LEVEL UP TO THE ANDY'S GIRLS PATREON, AND ENJOY BONUS EPS, INVITES TO SPECIAL ZOOM EVENTS, AND MORE: https://www.patreon.com/AndysGirls Follow Sarah on social: https://www.instagram.com/damegalli/ Highlighted Organizations Supporting Civilians in Israel and Gaza: Women Wage Peace: Women Wage Peace is the largest grassroots peace movement in Israel whose purpose is to promote a political agreement, involving women in the process. Today the movement has more than 44,000 members. NewGround: a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change: NewGround envisions an America where Muslims and Jews and others, both secular and religious, model lasting partnerships and engagement in authentic communication and mutual cooperation. The organization empowers Muslims, Jews and allies to bridge divisions and leverage shared values to strengthen our communities and our fragile democracy. Standing Together: Standing Together is a progressive grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel against the occupation and for peace, equality, and social justice. We know that the majority have far more in common than that which sets us apart and only a tiny minority benefits from the status quo. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for everyone in this land, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Solutions Not Sides: Solutions Not Sides has been teaching skills of empathy, active listening, communication, critical thinking and conflict resolution through exploration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict since 2010. Our programme is based on three key values: non-violence, equality for all, and the rejection of hatred. Palestine Children's Relief Fund (PCRF): PCRF is the primary humanitarian organization in Palestine, delivering crucial and life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid where it is needed most. Access to essential resources like food, clean water, and healthcare is severely limited. Urgent action is needed. With your support, we can continue this vital work, ensuring that the over one million children of Gaza receive the urgent care they need and deserve. https://www.pcrf.net/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Nonsense and Sensibility: Part 1 (Erica Cobb Joins to Discuss RHOM, RHOA, and The Valley)
    Jun 28 2025
    Sarah watches the new Miami and immediately throws water in a mirror, hoping to someone cleanse herself of the toxins emanating from those final, bewildering minutes. After realizing her bathroom sink mikvah only created an additional mess to clean up, she Zooms up a Bravoholic friend, spiritual advisor, and hilling journey captain to mention it all: Erica Cobb (recent co-host, Daily Blast Live, NAACP-Awards nominated host, 'Comeback with Erica Cobb,' and co-host of Accidentally Informed with Claudia Jordan). They clear their cals for another, ahem, AG classic mini episode. Over the course of this two-parter, they unpack Julia's attacks against Guerdy (and the cast's muted response), Kiki and Lisa's vulnerability talking about parent/child relationships, estrangement, and the choices made amidst the nuance, Janet's dinner outburst, what Angela shared about Phaedra's potential/alleged role in that on-camera "moment" about Charles, Brit and Kelli's friendship fallout, and whether Claudia Jordan could make a future return. Julia celebrated her birthday on IG, and let's just say her comments were hotter than birthday candles ever could - it's Andy's Girls, Episode 681! Part 1! Read Chard's Sayonara Letter: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/providence-ri/richard-galli-12112409 Support the sass: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/damegalli JOIN/LEVEL UP TO THE ANDY'S GIRLS PATREON, AND ENJOY BONUS EPS, INVITES TO SPECIAL ZOOM EVENTS, AND MORE: https://www.patreon.com/AndysGirls Follow Sarah on social: https://www.instagram.com/damegalli/ Highlighted Organizations Supporting Civilians in Israel and Gaza: Women Wage Peace: Women Wage Peace is the largest grassroots peace movement in Israel whose purpose is to promote a political agreement, involving women in the process. Today the movement has more than 44,000 members. NewGround: a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change: NewGround envisions an America where Muslims and Jews and others, both secular and religious, model lasting partnerships and engagement in authentic communication and mutual cooperation. The organization empowers Muslims, Jews and allies to bridge divisions and leverage shared values to strengthen our communities and our fragile democracy. Standing Together: Standing Together is a progressive grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel against the occupation and for peace, equality, and social justice. We know that the majority have far more in common than that which sets us apart and only a tiny minority benefits from the status quo. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for everyone in this land, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Solutions Not Sides: Solutions Not Sides has been teaching skills of empathy, active listening, communication, critical thinking and conflict resolution through exploration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict since 2010. Our programme is based on three key values: non-violence, equality for all, and the rejection of hatred. Palestine Children's Relief Fund (PCRF): PCRF is the primary humanitarian organization in Palestine, delivering crucial and life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid where it is needed most. Access to essential resources like food, clean water, and healthcare is severely limited. Urgent action is needed. With your support, we can continue this vital work, ensuring that the over one million children of Gaza receive the urgent care they need and deserve. https://www.pcrf.net/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 34 mins
  • Stranger Than Fiction: Part 2 (Alec Karam Joins to Deep Dive The Valley, RHOM, RHOA, and Next Gen NYC)
    Jun 24 2025
    The journey continues. Over the course of this two-parter, Sarah and AG guest cohost Alec Karam (Housewives writer and recapper for the Daily Beast) deep dive Alec's viral Daily Beast piece on Jax's Valley...performance (and uncertain Bravo future), an online and on-TV comparison-off between Jesse and Jax, Janet and Jason's animosity toward Danny vs. Jax, Miami's post-reality universe, Julia and Guerdy's friendship fallout, Larsa and Lisa (and Jody's) crossed wires, the net-negative of Charlie's soul, different takes on Shamea's performance (and why Sarah believes it's crucial to see Housewives express and expose vulnerability), and Brit and Kelli's series finale on their 'best' friendship. Kenya may or may not be back next season, which will begin airing as soon as this ep is done - it's Andy's Girls, Episode 680! Part 2! Alec's piece on Jax: https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/is-it-time-for-bravo-to-fire-jax-taylor-from-the-valley/ Read Chard's Sayonara Letter: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/providence-ri/richard-galli-12112409 Support the sass: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/damegalli JOIN/LEVEL UP TO THE ANDY'S GIRLS PATREON, AND ENJOY BONUS EPS, INVITES TO SPECIAL ZOOM EVENTS, AND MORE: https://www.patreon.com/AndysGirls Follow Sarah on social: https://www.instagram.com/damegalli/ Highlighted Organizations Supporting Civilians in Israel and Gaza: Women Wage Peace: Women Wage Peace is the largest grassroots peace movement in Israel whose purpose is to promote a political agreement, involving women in the process. Today the movement has more than 44,000 members. NewGround: a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change: NewGround envisions an America where Muslims and Jews and others, both secular and religious, model lasting partnerships and engagement in authentic communication and mutual cooperation. The organization empowers Muslims, Jews and allies to bridge divisions and leverage shared values to strengthen our communities and our fragile democracy. Standing Together: Standing Together is a progressive grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel against the occupation and for peace, equality, and social justice. We know that the majority have far more in common than that which sets us apart and only a tiny minority benefits from the status quo. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for everyone in this land, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Solutions Not Sides: Solutions Not Sides has been teaching skills of empathy, active listening, communication, critical thinking and conflict resolution through exploration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict since 2010. Our programme is based on three key values: non-violence, equality for all, and the rejection of hatred. Palestine Children's Relief Fund (PCRF): PCRF is the primary humanitarian organization in Palestine, delivering crucial and life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid where it is needed most. Access to essential resources like food, clean water, and healthcare is severely limited. Urgent action is needed. With your support, we can continue this vital work, ensuring that the over one million children of Gaza receive the urgent care they need and deserve. https://www.pcrf.net/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Stranger Than Fiction: Part 1 (Alec Karam Joins to Deep Dive The Valley, RHOM, RHOA, and Next Gen NYC)
    Jun 24 2025
    Sarah wakes up on yet another blisteringly hot day in NYC, when she realizes the temps on Bravo TV seem equally high. She fries an egg on her sidewalk, puts the cloffice AC into her veins, and realizes the only way to properly cool down is with an exhaustive 'round the world' convo of four Bravo shows (The Valley, RHOM, RHOA, and Next Gen NYC) with a fellow spiritual writer girl who has a few things to say: Housewives writer and recapper for the Daily Beast, Alec Karam. Over the course of this two-parter, they deep dive Alec's viral Daily Beast piece on Jax's Valley...performance (and uncertain Bravo future), an online and on-TV comparison-off between Jesse and Jax, Janet and Jason's animosity toward Danny vs. Jax, Miami's post-reality universe, Julia and Guerdy's friendship fallout, Larsa and Lisa (and Jody's) crossed wires, the net-negative of Charlie's soul, different takes on Shamea's performance (and why Sarah believes it's crucial to see Housewives express and expose vulnerability), and Brit and Kelli's series finale on their 'best' friendship. Best Friends Forever, and/or 3 weeks later, whichever ends first - it's Andy's Girls, Episode 680! Part 1 ! Alec's piece on Jax: https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/is-it-time-for-bravo-to-fire-jax-taylor-from-the-valley/ Read Chard's Sayonara Letter: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/providence-ri/richard-galli-12112409 Support the sass: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/damegalli JOIN/LEVEL UP TO THE ANDY'S GIRLS PATREON, AND ENJOY BONUS EPS, INVITES TO SPECIAL ZOOM EVENTS, AND MORE: https://www.patreon.com/AndysGirls Follow Sarah on social: https://www.instagram.com/damegalli/ Highlighted Organizations Supporting Civilians in Israel and Gaza: Women Wage Peace: Women Wage Peace is the largest grassroots peace movement in Israel whose purpose is to promote a political agreement, involving women in the process. Today the movement has more than 44,000 members. NewGround: a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change: NewGround envisions an America where Muslims and Jews and others, both secular and religious, model lasting partnerships and engagement in authentic communication and mutual cooperation. The organization empowers Muslims, Jews and allies to bridge divisions and leverage shared values to strengthen our communities and our fragile democracy. Standing Together: Standing Together is a progressive grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel against the occupation and for peace, equality, and social justice. We know that the majority have far more in common than that which sets us apart and only a tiny minority benefits from the status quo. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for everyone in this land, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Solutions Not Sides: Solutions Not Sides has been teaching skills of empathy, active listening, communication, critical thinking and conflict resolution through exploration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict since 2010. Our programme is based on three key values: non-violence, equality for all, and the rejection of hatred. Palestine Children's Relief Fund (PCRF): PCRF is the primary humanitarian organization in Palestine, delivering crucial and life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid where it is needed most. Access to essential resources like food, clean water, and healthcare is severely limited. Urgent action is needed. With your support, we can continue this vital work, ensuring that the over one million children of Gaza receive the urgent care they need and deserve. https://www.pcrf.net/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • Unhappy Valley: Part 2 (with Kate Aurthur)
    Jun 21 2025
    The journey continues. Over the course of this two-parter, Sarah and AG guest cohost Kate Aurthur (Variety's editor-at-large) discuss Kate's just-published Valley feature for Variety (linked in the show notes, below!), Kate's interviews with the cast, production and network, why Jax and Brittany didn't take part, Jax and Schwartz' catastrophic WWHL, speculation on Jax's future on the show, the network's response as to why they are platforming him (....), Lala, Schwartz, and Scheana's future on the Valley, Sarah's interest in a Kristen Doute-led Truman Show, and the network's decision not to include DV-specific resources for Valley eps. Jax doesn't have a rage problem, the veins in his neck just went for a jog - and it's Andy's Girls, Episode 679! Part 2! Kate's Variety feature: https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/bravo-the-valley-jax-taylor-cocaine-season-2-1236434173/ Read Chard's Sayonara Letter: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/providence-ri/richard-galli-12112409 Support the sass: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/damegalli JOIN/LEVEL UP TO THE ANDY'S GIRLS PATREON, AND ENJOY BONUS EPS, INVITES TO SPECIAL ZOOM EVENTS, AND MORE: https://www.patreon.com/AndysGirls Follow Sarah on social: https://www.instagram.com/damegalli/ Highlighted Organizations Supporting Civilians in Israel and Gaza: Women Wage Peace: Women Wage Peace is the largest grassroots peace movement in Israel whose purpose is to promote a political agreement, involving women in the process. Today the movement has more than 44,000 members. NewGround: a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change: NewGround envisions an America where Muslims and Jews and others, both secular and religious, model lasting partnerships and engagement in authentic communication and mutual cooperation. The organization empowers Muslims, Jews and allies to bridge divisions and leverage shared values to strengthen our communities and our fragile democracy. Standing Together: Standing Together is a progressive grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel against the occupation and for peace, equality, and social justice. We know that the majority have far more in common than that which sets us apart and only a tiny minority benefits from the status quo. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for everyone in this land, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Solutions Not Sides: Solutions Not Sides has been teaching skills of empathy, active listening, communication, critical thinking and conflict resolution through exploration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict since 2010. Our programme is based on three key values: non-violence, equality for all, and the rejection of hatred. Palestine Children's Relief Fund (PCRF): PCRF is the primary humanitarian organization in Palestine, delivering crucial and life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid where it is needed most. Access to essential resources like food, clean water, and healthcare is severely limited. Urgent action is needed. With your support, we can continue this vital work, ensuring that the over one million children of Gaza receive the urgent care they need and deserve. https://www.pcrf.net/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    44 mins
  • Unhappy Valley: Part 1 (with Kate Aurthur)
    Jun 21 2025
    Sarah watches the newest episode of the Valley while reading a Variety feature on the show backwards, hoping to hear The Beatles or Pink Floyd whisper "Jax is leaving/stay tuned to Bravo TV dot com." Undeterred by off key notes reminiscent of Tom Sandoval being the most extras, she realizes the best notes are the ones made in Nia's dulcet tones. So she Zooms up one of her fave writer girls, and Variety's editor-at-large, Kate Aurthur, to discuss Kate's just-published Variety feature (linked in the show notes, below!), interviews with the cast, production and network, why Jax and Brittany didn't take part, Jax and Schwartz' catastrophic WWHL, speculation on Jax's future on the show, the network's response as to why they are platforming him (....), Lala, Schwartz, and Scheana's future on the Valley, Sarah's interest in a Kristen Doute-led Truman Show, and the network's decision not to include DV-specific resources for Valley eps. Jax is a truly terrible person, end of sentence - and it's Andy's Girls, Episode 679! Part 1! Kate's Variety feature: https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/bravo-the-valley-jax-taylor-cocaine-season-2-1236434173/ Read Chard's Sayonara Letter: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/providence-ri/richard-galli-12112409 Support the sass: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/damegalli JOIN/LEVEL UP TO THE ANDY'S GIRLS PATREON, AND ENJOY BONUS EPS, INVITES TO SPECIAL ZOOM EVENTS, AND MORE: https://www.patreon.com/AndysGirls Follow Sarah on social: https://www.instagram.com/damegalli/ Highlighted Organizations Supporting Civilians in Israel and Gaza: Women Wage Peace: Women Wage Peace is the largest grassroots peace movement in Israel whose purpose is to promote a political agreement, involving women in the process. Today the movement has more than 44,000 members. NewGround: a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change: NewGround envisions an America where Muslims and Jews and others, both secular and religious, model lasting partnerships and engagement in authentic communication and mutual cooperation. The organization empowers Muslims, Jews and allies to bridge divisions and leverage shared values to strengthen our communities and our fragile democracy. Standing Together: Standing Together is a progressive grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel against the occupation and for peace, equality, and social justice. We know that the majority have far more in common than that which sets us apart and only a tiny minority benefits from the status quo. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for everyone in this land, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Solutions Not Sides: Solutions Not Sides has been teaching skills of empathy, active listening, communication, critical thinking and conflict resolution through exploration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict since 2010. Our programme is based on three key values: non-violence, equality for all, and the rejection of hatred. Palestine Children's Relief Fund (PCRF): PCRF is the primary humanitarian organization in Palestine, delivering crucial and life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid where it is needed most. Access to essential resources like food, clean water, and healthcare is severely limited. Urgent action is needed. With your support, we can continue this vital work, ensuring that the over one million children of Gaza receive the urgent care they need and deserve. https://www.pcrf.net/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    49 mins
  • Binders Full of Women: Reacting to RHOBH, RHOP, and Summer House Casting News, Brit's RHOA Lawsuit, and More
    Jun 18 2025
    Sarah returns from her European adventure, having consumed enough cheese and champagne to fuel any number of environmentally friendly DeLorean time machines. And timing is everything, as there's so much Bravo breaking news to deep dive. So she unpacks her luggage, and BravoTV dot com: Rachel Zoe's casting on RHOBH, Monique's (friend-of) return to RHOP, Lexi's exit from Summer House (and Lindsay's return), Brit's decision to skip the RHOA reunion (and then...sue the network for $20 million) amid a shocking update to the photo controversy, and yes, Brynn's 'walking away' from RHONY (lol). Sarah's no longer a real girlfriend of Paris, but she is to the cloff - it's Andy's Girls, Episode 678! Read Chard's Sayonara Letter: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/providence-ri/richard-galli-12112409 Support the sass: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/damegalli JOIN/LEVEL UP TO THE ANDY'S GIRLS PATREON, AND ENJOY BONUS EPS, INVITES TO SPECIAL ZOOM EVENTS, AND MORE: https://www.patreon.com/AndysGirls Follow Sarah on social: https://www.instagram.com/damegalli/ Highlighted Organizations Supporting Civilians in Israel and Gaza: Women Wage Peace: Women Wage Peace is the largest grassroots peace movement in Israel whose purpose is to promote a political agreement, involving women in the process. Today the movement has more than 44,000 members. NewGround: a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change: NewGround envisions an America where Muslims and Jews and others, both secular and religious, model lasting partnerships and engagement in authentic communication and mutual cooperation. The organization empowers Muslims, Jews and allies to bridge divisions and leverage shared values to strengthen our communities and our fragile democracy. Standing Together: Standing Together is a progressive grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel against the occupation and for peace, equality, and social justice. We know that the majority have far more in common than that which sets us apart and only a tiny minority benefits from the status quo. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for everyone in this land, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Solutions Not Sides: Solutions Not Sides has been teaching skills of empathy, active listening, communication, critical thinking and conflict resolution through exploration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict since 2010. Our programme is based on three key values: non-violence, equality for all, and the rejection of hatred. Palestine Children's Relief Fund (PCRF): PCRF is the primary humanitarian organization in Palestine, delivering crucial and life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid where it is needed most. Access to essential resources like food, clean water, and healthcare is severely limited. Urgent action is needed. With your support, we can continue this vital work, ensuring that the over one million children of Gaza receive the urgent care they need and deserve. https://www.pcrf.net/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • Taking It Personally: And Just Like That (with James LaRosa)
    Jun 12 2025
    And just like that, Sarah's European vacay is almost over. But before she returns to the cloff (and artificial sweeteners), she simple had to do one last London-based mention it all. So she and one of her absolute fave people to deep dive one of their lol most mixed bag shows: James LaRosa (multi-hyphenate writer, director, show runner and Lily Goldenblatt's #1 fan). They unpack the first two episodes of And Just Like That's new season, from a previous lost episode deemed 'too dark' to publish, to the legacy of SATC vs. AJLT, the difficulty of 'showing' humor vs. actual funny, different takes on Samantha's cameo last season, and more. Carrie introduced Sarah to Manolo Blahnik, and for that she will always be grateful - it's Taking It Personally! Read Chard's Sayonara Letter: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/providence-ri/richard-galli-12112409 Support the sass: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/damegalli JOIN/LEVEL UP TO THE ANDY'S GIRLS PATREON, AND ENJOY BONUS EPS, INVITES TO SPECIAL ZOOM EVENTS, AND MORE: https://www.patreon.com/AndysGirls Follow Sarah on social: https://www.instagram.com/damegalli/ Highlighted Organizations Supporting Civilians in Israel and Gaza: Women Wage Peace: Women Wage Peace is the largest grassroots peace movement in Israel whose purpose is to promote a political agreement, involving women in the process. Today the movement has more than 44,000 members. NewGround: a Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change: NewGround envisions an America where Muslims and Jews and others, both secular and religious, model lasting partnerships and engagement in authentic communication and mutual cooperation. The organization empowers Muslims, Jews and allies to bridge divisions and leverage shared values to strengthen our communities and our fragile democracy. Standing Together: Standing Together is a progressive grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel against the occupation and for peace, equality, and social justice. We know that the majority have far more in common than that which sets us apart and only a tiny minority benefits from the status quo. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for everyone in this land, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Solutions Not Sides: Solutions Not Sides has been teaching skills of empathy, active listening, communication, critical thinking and conflict resolution through exploration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict since 2010. Our programme is based on three key values: non-violence, equality for all, and the rejection of hatred. Palestine Children's Relief Fund (PCRF): PCRF is the primary humanitarian organization in Palestine, delivering crucial and life-saving medical relief and humanitarian aid where it is needed most. Access to essential resources like food, clean water, and healthcare is severely limited. Urgent action is needed. With your support, we can continue this vital work, ensuring that the over one million children of Gaza receive the urgent care they need and deserve. https://www.pcrf.net/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 8 mins