As a doctoral candidate in counselor education and vice president of the American Association of Christian Counselors, Zach Clinton has seen up close our society’s epidemic of depression, loneliness, and hopelessness. In this week’s podcast, he talks with Redeemed founder Paul Amos about ways men can combat that epidemic, build emotional and spiritual resilience, and overcome the things standing in the way of a deeper and more meaningful relationship with God. Resilience, he says, can be summed up with the two words that form the title of his new book, Even If: Even if the world bombards us with challenges, pressures, and temptations, by staying true to our faith, family, friends, and principles we can achieve courageous and fulfilling lives.

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