In this episode, Dino and Craig tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in industrial cybersecurity: IT/OT convergence.

But is it truly convergence or more of a collision?

Drawing from real-world experiences, they challenge the idea that OT is a “shadow IT group” and argue that operational technology deserves distinct governance, funding, and strategic influence.

From secure-by-design to system integrators' evolving role, this conversation is a call to action for CISOs, CIOs, and engineering leaders to rethink how they build cybersecurity partnerships across the plant floor.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 - Opening Shot: Who’s Really in Charge—CIOs or the Plant Floor?
• 00:00:57 - Collision Course: IT and OT Can’t Keep Dodging Each Other
• 00:01:52 - Two Worlds, One Mission: Why OT Isn’t Just “IT in a Hard Hat”
• 00:04:07 - When Convergence Fails: What’s Missing in the Middle
• 00:05:54 - Breaking Silos: Why Cybersecurity Demands True Collaboration
• 00:08:22 - Real Talk: What Cyber Protection Looks Like on the Plant Floor
• 00:10:46 - OT’s Tipping Point: Will the Next Move Come from IT, or the Shop Floor?
• 00:17:32 - Your Move: What Leaders Must Do Next (Before It’s Too Late)

Links And Resources:

• Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedIn
• Cybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedIn
• BW Design Group Cybersecurity
• Dino Busalachi on LinkedIn
• Craig Duckworth on LinkedIn

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