Law lecturer and former criminal barrister Chris Kehoe is furious at what he sees as heavy handed sentencing in the case of the Just Stop Oil Protestors who received 5 and 4 year sentences this week. Are there grounds for appeal, and if so what are they? What law did the protestors break and is it fit for purpose?

Elsewhere Alex suggests a new TV show set in a prison and is dreaming of a pie for his dinner.

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Why do cases involving young defendants generate such strong public reactions? What role does/ should rehabilitation play with young murderers? What is the legal age that a person be tried in England and Wales for murder? Plus, a mention of a very recent case and a a case from over 30 years ago which led to a change in the law.

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Third warning. In this episode there are show spoilers. There is also a discussion on the old law of rape/ sexual offences, male rape and how that did not used to be an offence, spousal rape and how that did not used to be an offence. We also talk about stalking and what the 'Real life Martha' may do next.

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There is an annoying whistling coming from Mr Kehoe's office. Can the polymath, academic, former barrister with a post graduate European Law degree figure out a simple solution so that we don't have to listen to it for 45 mins? Spoiler alert: No.

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