Ben and Andy talk about money and power in this episode. They touch on ideas like the Prosperity Gospel and climbing the professional ladder, but focus on the pervasive idea that God works on a barter system where one’s wealth, power, and prestige demonstrate someone’s faithfulness and goodness. They talk about the ways that Jesus (and most of the Hebrew prophets) flatly deny that concept of God and how hard it is to act out God’s divine equality in everyday life.

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Andy and Ben discuss the apostle Paul on this episode. They use Paul and the ways that Christians tend to prefer Paul over Jesus to talk about uncertainty: both the ways we try to avoid it and its centrality to the ethic of Jesus.

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Ben and Andy close out their impromptu three-part series on Christians in the world (otherwise known as political theology). They talk about the oft repeated phrase “in the world but not of the world” as a way to figure out how and why evangelicals have tended to treat politics and culture as threats yet vitally important. They close in a hopeful discussion about what it means to not be of the world yet to be sent into it. Rather than requiring concrete beliefs or stances, simply trying to help and bless others comes closer to the way of Jesus as they see it.

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