Is there a good kind of contamination? The energy and emotion get turned up in this 2nd part of our conversation with teacher and author Bille Hoard about disgust and "eucontamination.". This week we also introduce our new "Bible Moment" segment with Bible Teacher Amanda Pence, MA, who provides valuable context, history, and insight into how passages from the Hebrew Bible and Christian New Testament apply to the episode topic--in this case, disgust (and who are the "real" people of God)

Billie Hoard is "a trans woman, teacher, author, and something of an Anabaptist radical.” Billie and her brother, psychology professor Paul Hoard, are co-authors of the forthcoming book “Eucontamination: Disgust Theology and the Christian Life” (Cascade Books), a psychological, theological, and sociological exploration of disgust, purity/contamination, and being transformed by what’s trueFind Billie's work at billieiswriting.substack.com and connect on IG/Threads @billieiswriting

Amanda Pence MA is a Bible scholar who graduated with highest honors from Talbot School of Theology (Biola University). She is committed to studying the Bible in context & with a deep commitment to its inspiration & authority. She is also an Evangelical LGBTQIA+ advocate who affirms the full inclusion of all siblings of faith, in all levels of the church. Find out more about her academic writings and public speaking at https://www.amandapence.org. Subscribe to her Substack at https://open.substack.com/pub/amandapence.

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