In this episode of "Body Bags," we unravel the harrowing story of Shaye Groves, a woman consumed by her obsession with serial killers and ultimately implicated in the brutal murder of her boyfriend, Frankie Fitzgerald Delving into the chilling fascination that permeated her life and relationships, the hosts uncover the disturbing evidence that led to the gruesome crime. Hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the challenges investigators face when encountering an unfamiliar crime scene and the unsettling environment they discover including a macabre collection of serial killer images and the couple's history of violent, videotaped sex acts. They discuss Shaye Groves' possible premeditation of the murder, her manipulation and blackmail of previous partners through recorded sex acts, and her meticulous execution of the crime, such as using bleach to clean up the scene.

Shownotes:

00:20 - Intro to case.

02:10 - Dave Mack gives background and overview of case.

04:10 - What impact did having serial killer images in her home have on Shay Groves and her mindset?

05:25 - The disturbing nature of Shay Groves' obsession and how it relates to the crime and her life.

07:10 - Shay Groves and Frankie Fitzgerald's romantic relationship and Shaye's controlling nature.

09:25 - Challenges investigators face when entering an unfamiliar crime scene and disturbing evidence and how their first impressions can impact their investigation.

11:50 - The couple's history of violent sex acts captured on video and how this escalated.

14:00 - The use of bleach in morgue cleanups and how the smell of bleach can linger, connecting it to the crime scene.

15:10 - Possibility of Shea Groves planning the murder and the use of bleach to clean the crime scene.

19:50 - Shea's obsession with serial killers, dark imagery, and the types of knives used in the murder.

21:55 - JoScott talks about the differences between single-edged and double-edged knife wounds.

24:40 - The catastrophic loss of blood that led to Frankie's death and Shaye’s possible motives and methods during the attack.

26:40 - Determining if any wounds were inflicted post-mortem and whether the crime was a torture event or a dark fantasy acted out by Shaye.

28:54 - Outro.

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Dylan Redwine is forced to spend Thanksgiving with his father in Colorado. He doesn't want to be there because he knows some things about his father, secret, disgusting things, and he just doesn't want to be around him. But due to his parent divorce he has to go. Dylan Redwine goes missing, his dad suggests a bear might have got him. It takes time, but in the end, Forensics will tell the entire story of what happened to Dylan Redwine.Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down a story that took years to finish and includes blood, sex, knives, and bones.

Time Code Highlights.

00:01:40 Redwine Murder was one of the first Joseph Scott Morgan covered in media

00:04:00 Dylan must go to his father’s house in Colorado for Thanksgiving

00:05:08 Mark Redwine house burned down previously

00:07:03 Discussion of children of divorce, Dylan did not want to be with his father

00:08:20 Talk about pictures Dylan and his brother saw on their dad’s computer

00:09:30 Joe talks the information he was given to cover story on network show

00:11:03 Pictures of Mark Redwine in lingerie, makeup, eating out of diaper

00:13:09 Joe tells story of being embarrassed comparing it to how Mark Redwine was embarrassed his children found out about secret pictures

00:15:00 Discussion about the boys confronting their father over his pictures

00:16:50 Talk about Mark Redwine responding to Corey about the pictures

00:19:25 Joe talks about Mark Redwine being humiliated and angry

00:20:45 Redwine claims he went to store, Dylan was gone when he got back

00:21:35 Discussion about Corey Redwine being several years older than Dylan

00:22:45 Talk about forensics and how nothing is ever hidden

00:24:04 Joe talks about a dog finding blood in the home

00:26:05 Blood from Dylan would have to have been from recent visit

00:30:04 Joe talks about a murder case without a body

00:31:00 Both femurs of Dylan Redwine found 8 miles from Mark Redwine home

00:32:43 Bones found on a road could have been drug by an animal

00:34:14 Determining whether the bones were separated by human using tools

00:36:05 Talk about Mark Redwine mentioning something to a friend about blunt force trauma and they would need to find his head

00:37:45 Dylan Redwine skull found

00:39:00 No animals in the area that would drag remains up the mountain

00:40:10 Talk about surface deposition

00:41:05 Mark Redwine said Dylan may have been attacked by a bear.

00:43:50 What the skull tells investigators. Took several months to identify

00:45:12 Joe explains using sinus for identification

00:46:45 Skull fractures show blunt force trauma. Two linear marks consistent with a knife blade found on skull.

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Recorded LIVE at CrimeCon Nashville, 2024:In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan explains how he challenges his class at Jacksonville State University to try and solve a cold case. Two years in a row, two different classes and students chose the unsolved murder of Blake Chappell. Blake Chappell tells his mother he is having the best night of his life with his girlfriend at the East Coweta High School Homecoming Dance.Within a matter of hours, Blake will find himself chased out of his girlfriend’s house in the middle of the night, walking down the road at 5 a.m. texting his girlfriend, and telling her police just stopped and talked to him. One last text to his girlfriend that he is getting cold, and his phone goes quiet.Blake Chappell is 17 and he never makes it back to his friend’s house. He just vanishes into thin air. It is October 16, 2011. Two months later on December 17, 2011, his nearly naked body is found floating in a creek, he has been shot in the back of the head.The case is still unsolved. But new search warrants were served in March 2024, will there be justice for Blake Chappell?

Transcript Highlights

00:00:13 Introduction Blake Chappel Case

00:04:40 Discuss of family financial issues

00:08:28 Blake finds ex-girlfriend who ran away

00:10:32 Blake beaten up by ex’s stepfather

00:12:26 Blake put in jail for finding his ex

00:17:35 Mother takes Blake and date to homecoming dance

00:20:48 Discussion of Blake activities walking in the night

00:24:24 Talk about Blake walking miles to see girlfriend

00:28:08 Talk about Blake texting girlfriend

00:31:49 Talk about Blake doesn’t make it back to Austin’s house

00:37:36 Discussion Blake shot in back of head

00:43:22 Discussion rumors about Blake’s death

00:48:12 Discussion Blake found wearing underwear, no shoes

00:52:34 Conclusion Joseph Scott Morgan lets his JSU class pick unsolved crime to solve Two years in a row the case of Blake Chappel is chosen for the project

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Over the last few years, more and more death scenes involve dismemberment.An "obsessed" true crime fan in South Korea thinks she can pull off the perfect murder, so how did Jung Yoo-Jung get caught? Taylor Schabusiness tells police she doesn't remember strangling her boyfriend, but it felt good. She leaves his severed head in a bucket for his mother to find.And in Tennessee, prosecutors say Joel Guy Jr created a "diabolical stew of human remains" with his mother's head when he finds out his parents are cutting him off.Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the forensics and Dave Mack keeps the stories moving in this fast-paced edition of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan in front of a live audience at CrimeCon 2023 in Orlando, Florida

Time Code Highlights.

00:02:50 South Korean Woman Jung Yoo-Jung is said to be an obsessed crime fan

00:03:17 Discussion of how 23-year-old woman pretends to be a 14-year-old school girl

00:04:19 Jung Yoo-jung wants to commit a homicide and dismember the victim to try and get away with murder..

00:05:33 Her plan is to kill, dismember, and dispose of the victim.

00:06:27 Talks about the tools needed to do the job she wants to do

00:10:19 What would she used to clean up the area?

00:12:00 Talk about Gilgo and Rex Heuermann

00:12:44 Talking about the getaway and getting rid of the remains

00:12:57 To commit the perfect crime she uses a cab as a getaway car, leads to her capture

00:14:39 Joseph Scott Morgan tells story of transporting a head as a young man working in New Orleans with the coroner.

00:15:52 Under no circumstances are you to allow this bot this head out of your sight. 00:16:23 Had to use a cooler with ice to transport the head

00:18:40 Discussion about Taylor Schabusiness case.

00:19:14 The mother of the victim finds his head in bucket

00:20:20 Discussion of the relationship between suspect and victim

00:21:56 Schabusiness told police she didn't remember strangling him, but she remembered liking it.

00:23:16 She told police, you found this part of him, good luck finding the rest

00:25:48 Discussion about the types of knives needed to do what was done to the victim

00:27:46 Talk about the forensics of different types of blades

00:30:47 Joe Scott Morgan talks about the time it takes to dismember a body

00:32:09 Joel Guy Jr, created a game plan for what he was going to do to his parents

00:32:23 Discussion about Joel Guy Jr and why he killed his parents

00:34:18 Joel Guy Jr stabbed his parents to death, then cut them up.

00:35:04 Talk about police interrupted Joel Guy Jr and found his "list" of things to do

00:39:42 Discussion of the medical examiner at the trial

00:40:09 Talk about anti-mortem and post-mortem

00:43:11 Joseph Scott Morgan explains the way a body can be disarticulated

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Recorded live in front of a studio audience at CrimeCon in Las Vegas, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan re-examines the injuries to Ellen Greenberg. The teacher and soon-to-be-bride, is found death in her apartment with more than 20 stab wounds, and her death is ruled a suicide.

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A final look at items brought up in the recent Netflix documentary about JonBenet Ramsey and her death. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the crime scene with Joe breaking down the mistakes that were made and how they have nothing to do with technology. Also, a question that has never been answered regarding the "ransom" note. What type of "kidnapper" kills the person and leaves a "ransom" note? Who would pay a "ransom" for the "safe return" of a loved one when the "loved one" is already dead and in the house?

Transcribe Highlights
00:00.41 Introduction

02:00.28 No excuses for evidence mistakes

04:54.75 Never Ask Father of missing 6-year-old search the house

10:06.27 The physical things seen in strangling

14:34.80 Why leave the body AND ransom note

19:53.52 Why ask for $118,000?

24:28.50 The reason for the ransom note is dead

29:07.64 JonBenet was beaten, skull was fractured

32:10.35 Conclusion

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A fire was reported November 7th, 2024, at Broadmoor Self-Storage in Kentwood, Michigan. Firefighters cut the lock off unit 454, and discovered the body of Corinne Abosamra. Morgan Wingeier rented a storage unit at Broadmoor Self-Storage and allowed Corinne Abosamra to live in the unit. On the day of the fire, Wingeier left Abosamra in the unit and locked it with a pad lock on the outside. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss what is known so far about the death of Abosamra and look closely at the evidence to see if it leads to accident or murder.

Transcribe Highlights

00:00.41 Introduction

02:00.28 Renting a Storage Unit

04:54.75 At a fire scene, everything looks the same

09:06.27 Would someone rent a storage unit to render down a body

14:34.80 Finding charred remains in the storage unit

19:53.52 Did Morgan Wingeier forget she locked Abosamra in storage unit

24:28.50 Victim was in the unit for 10 hours before fire was seen

29:07.64 Wingeier didn't return to the storage unit

34:10.35 Heat coming off a fire, no escape

39:47.36 Conclusion

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This is a story of the Wagner family and the Rhoden family. Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden began dating when Hanna was 13 and Jake was 18. Hanna became pregnant with Jake's baby when she was 15. Those who knew Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden said that Jake Wagner was very controlling and had been verbally and physically abusive to Hanna. Hanna Rhoden broke up with Jake Wagner and they both dated other people. Hanna had a child with another man and Jake Wagner married another woman, briefly. The Wagner family wanted custody of Sophia and accused Hanna Rhoden of dating men that might sexually assault Sophia. There was no proof this was the case, but it fueled the rage in the Wagner family toward Hanna Rhoden. When the Wagner's tried to force Hanna Rhoden to sign papers to turn custody of Sophia over to Jake Wagner, she refused and posted a message on Facebook that she would “never sign papers ever. They will have to kill me first.” That is when the Wagner family decided to kill Hanna Rhoden, as well as her relatives so that custody would fall to them. Jake Wagner allegedly began a relationship with Hanna Rhoden when she was 13, impregnating her when she was 15 and he was 20. In addition to homicide, he has been charged with unlawful sexual conduct with a minor. After she ended the relationship, prosecutors say, he began threatening her.The bodies of the Rhoden family members were first discovered on the morning of April 22, 2016 by Bobby Jo Manley, the ex-sister of Chris Rhoden Sr.There were four locations and eight victims, all killed in one night. The victims were: Hannah Hazel Gilley, 20, Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, Dana Lynn Manley Rhoden, 37, Christopher Don Rhoden Jr., 16, Christopher Don Rhoden Sr., 40, Gary Dwayne Rhoden, 38, and Kenneth Wayne Rhoden, 44.

Pike County Massacre - sentencing

Confessed killer gets life in prison with chance for parole

Angela Wagner - 30 years with possibility of parole (credited with six years and six weeks served)

Jake Wagner sentenced to Life with Possibility of Parole after 32 years

Rita Newcomb sentenced to 5 years of probation and $750 fine

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about some of the decisions that have been made in the case of the Piketon Massacre. Breaking down the crimes of the night, four locations in one night, wiping out generations of one family, moving an infant child next to the bosom of his dead mother so the baby can suckle if he gets hungry. Joe explains each crime scene to help explain what type of planning was required.

Piketon Massacre
Transcript Highlights

00:00.01 Introduction

02:55.22 Sentencing at Piketon

06:05.91 Mother was the Puppetmaster

10:12.49 Not a death penalty case

15:21.13 Hannah was 13 when she began dating Jake

20:01.28 Hannah says "I'm never signing any papers

25:29.20 Mother bought new shoes at Walmart

30:29.13 Angela Wagner hung baskets in kitchen

34:57.12 Piketon Massacre sentencing

40:35.65 Is this really the best outcome

46:06.07 Conclusion

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