What happens when we stop pretending we’re fine and start getting honest with God? Jonathan Youssef sits down with Joy Chapman, West Coast Development Director for Leading The Way, to hear her powerful story of transformation. From a childhood faith shaped by Scripture to life-altering experiences of loss, fear, and forgiveness, Joy shares how God met her in moments of deep pain to bring true healing and freedom.

Through disasters, both internal and external, Joy discovered that Jesus doesn’t just offer salvation, He offers healing for our memories, minds, and even our grief. Whether you’re wrestling with fear, shame, unforgiveness, or the weight of being “fine,” this candid conversation will remind you: Jesus is near, and it's for freedom Christ set us free.

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What do Listerine strips, backyard barbecues, and cartoon characters have to do with kids meeting Jesus? More than you might think.

In this lively and insightful episode of Candid Conversations, host Jonathan Youssef welcomes back Zack Carden—pastor, storyteller, and creator of Grey Bobby Ministries—to explore the incredible opportunity churches have with Vacation Bible School (VBS).

Zack shares how his passion for the Gospel and kids collided unexpectedly, leading to years of creative VBS leadership that blends humor, theology, and deep discipleship. Together, they unpack why VBS still works, how it transforms both kids and teen volunteers, and what churches can do to make the most of this high-impact week.

In this episode, you will learn:

• Why the 3–13 age window is spiritually critical
• What unchurched families really think about sending kids to VBS
• How to follow up meaningfully after the last water balloon pops
• The simple tool Zack uses to draw kids (and their families) back to church
• How parents can disciple kids without feeling overwhelmed
• Learn how to use your church's VBS to reach your community and keep them coming back.

Whether planning this year’s VBS or wondering if it’s still worth doing, this episode will reignite your vision for reaching the next generation with the Gospel.

More from Zack Carden:

Find Zack Carden's Biblical storytelling content for kids: Visit Greybobby Ministries

Jonathan learns more about Greybobby from Zack: Listen here

Remember, it's not too late to register for VBS, invite a friend, or start planning for next year. Schedule it, defend it, and watch God move.

Are you searching for something solid to hold onto when life feels uncertain?

In a world where finances fluctuate, relationships disappoint, and the future seems unpredictable, we all crave a sense of security. But what if the things we cling to can’t truly keep us safe?

In this episode of Candid Conversations, Jonathan Youssef explores the universal longing for security through the lens of one of Scripture’s most moving stories, the journey of Ruth. Drawing wisdom from Ruth chapter 2, Jonathan invites you to consider:

• Where are you placing your trust?
• What do you run to when life feels shaky?
• Could there be a deeper, unshakeable refuge you’re missing?

You’ll hear how Ruth, a foreigner with nothing left to lose, risked everything to care for her mother-in-law, and how her faith led her straight into God’s providence. Discover how God’s invisible hand works even in your hardest seasons, providing protection, provision, and hope in unexpected ways.

Whether you feel bitter and empty like Naomi, vulnerable and courageous like Ruth, or in a position to bless like Boaz, this episode will encourage you to find your true security, not in what you can build or protect, but under the loving wing of the God who sees you.

Listen now and rediscover the only place of lasting security.

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