Guest: Lucas Rockett Gutterman, Designed to Last campaign director, PIRG

At PIRG: https://pirg.org/people/lucas-gutterman/

Hosts:

Alejandro Juárez Crawford

On ITSPmagazine 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/alejandro-juarez-crawford

Miriam Plavin-Masterman

On ITSPmagazine 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/miriam-plavin-masterman

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Episode Introduction

We often think we understand the world better than others thanks to all the articles we read online, but Lucas Rockett Gutterman believes that true understanding comes not from consumption, but from doing—especially when you do it alongside others. Tune in to hear how doing might change your perspective on the world.

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Resources

"Why Google announced Chromebooks will last for 10 years": https://pirg.org/articles/why-google-announced-chromebooks-will-last-for-10-years/

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