ChatEDU: AI in Education

By: Matt Mervis and Dr. Elizabeth Radday
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  • Welcome to ChatEDU: AI in Education, your go-to podcast for insightful discussions on the intersection of AI and K-12 education! Hosted by Matt Mervis, Director of Skills21 and AI Strategy at EdAdvance, and Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Director of Research & Innovation, this podcast explores the dynamic landscape of education technology.
    Matt Mervis and Dr. Elizabeth Radday
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Episodes
  • Google’s Learn About – Innovation Amid AI Turbulence | Ep. 33
    Nov 22 2024

    In this NEW episode of ChatEDU (Google’s Learn About – Innovation Amid AI Turbulence), Matt and Liz explore Google’s new generative AI tool and its implications for education, content publishers, and AI-guided self-directed learning.

    Getting Started:Matt and Liz reflect on their hiatus and the success of their recent AI in Education micro-credential launch. They also have a fun look at Daisy AI from 02. An AI tool designed to capture the time and attention of phone scammers.

    The Big Three:

    1. OpenAI’s A Student’s Guide to Writing with ChatGPT

      • A comprehensive guide for ethical and productive use of ChatGPT in education.

      • Key features include automating citation formatting, research roadmaps, Socratic dialogue, and iterative feedback.

      • Matt and Liz debate its utility and timeliness, two years post-ChatGPT launch.

    2. Leon Furze’s Take on Generative AI and Grading

      • Furze argues against using AI for high-stakes grading due to inherent biases and variability in outputs.

      • Discussion of experiments showing racial and cultural biases in AI-assigned grades.

      • Emphasis on generative AI as a tool for formative feedback rather than summative assessment.

    3. Google’s Learn About (Beneath the Surface)

      • Launched against the backdrop of some troubling AI outputs from Google’s Gemini model.

      • A new AI tool focused on enhancing learning with interactive, visually engaging, and research-grounded content.

      • Features include vocab building, contextual explanations, and integrated resources like YouTube videos and articles.

      • Matt and Liz explore its potential for PIPs (Personal Interest Projects), capstones, and self-guided learning.

    Short Stack Chat Back:Matt and Liz respond to a listener’s question about the ethics of teachers using AI for grading. They emphasize the importance of transparency, minimizing bias, and adhering to data privacy laws when integrating AI into assessment processes.

    Announcements:

    • Matt and Liz are launching a new cohort for their AI in K-12 Education Micro-Credential in January.

    • Upcoming live appearances at AESA and the release of more exciting episodes this December.

    Related Links:

    • OpenAI's A Student’s Guide to Writing with ChatGPT: https://openai.com/chatgpt/use-cases/student-writing-guide/

    • Leon Furze’s blog on AI and Grading: https://leonfurze.com/2024/05/27/dont-use-genai-to-grade-student-work/

    • Google’s LearnAbout Experiment: https://learning.google.com/experiments/learn-about/signup

    • AI in K-12 Micro-Credential Info: Skills21.org/ai/micro

    • Diasy AI from o2: https://www.forbes.com/sites/lesliekatz/2024/11/15/introducing-daisy-an-ai-granny-outwitting-scammers-one-call-at-a-time/

    Have a question or comment? Email Matt and Liz at chatedu@edadvance.org


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    57 mins
  • Encore Episode - A Talk with the Boss, The Jonathan Costa Interview
    Nov 15 2024

    While Matt and Liz continue to roll out their AI micro-credential, ChatEDU is revisiting some episodes from our past lineup. In the coming weeks, we’ll continue to bring back listener favorites that sparked conversations and insights. If you’re new to ChatEDU, welcome! We hope these episodes offer you a great starting point. For our long-time listeners, it’s a chance to revisit an episode or check out other AI and education podcasts.

    In this Encore Episode – A Talk with the Boss, Matt and Liz sit down with Jonathan Costa, the Executive Director of EdAdvance. They dive into a wide-ranging conversation that covers Jonathan’s journey from high school history teacher to agency leader. They discuss his unique perspective on the role of AI in education, from improving operational efficiencies to supporting schools in navigating the profound instructional changes AI brings. Jonathan explains his vision for AI’s role in reshaping school administration and explores how AI might impact everything from back-office functions to strategic educational planning. They also tackle challenging topics like how AI will influence job structures in education, the skills students truly need for future success, and why adaptive leadership is more critical than ever.

    Expect new episodes later this fall, including a special new episode the day after Thanksgiving (in the US)! In the meantime, you can email us with questions at chatedu@edadvance.org. And if you’d like to learn more about the AI in K-12 education micro-credential, visit skills21.org/ai/micro. Thanks as always for tuning in!

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    52 mins
  • Encore Episode - From Solo to System, Elevating AI Across Our Schools
    Nov 8 2024

    While Matt and Liz continue rolling out their AI micro-credential, ChatEDU will be revisiting some of our past episodes. Over the next few weeks, we’ll bring back more listener favorites that sparked insightful discussions and questions. If you're new to ChatEDU, welcome! We hope these episodes offer a solid introduction. And for our loyal listeners, take this chance to revisit a past episode or check out other great AI and education podcasts.

    In this Encore Episode – From Solo to System: Elevating AI Across Our Schools, Matt and Liz tackle the shift from individual to systemic use of AI in education. First up, they explore the heavy investments labs like Google DeepMind are making to reduce “hallucinations” in large language models. From there, it's a dash of AI images and then AI agency. Finally, Matt and Liz look at the wider potential for AI in schools, advocating for a focus not only on teacher training but on comprehensive school-wide AI integration. They unpack how institutions can scale AI to enhance curriculum, assessment, administration, and more, moving beyond isolated cases to cohesive, strategic use. And, as always, they close with a Short Stack Chat Back.

    Expect new live episodes later this fall including a special episode the day after Thanksgiving (in the US)! In the meantime, you can email us with questions at chatedu@edadvance.org and if you'd like to learn more about the AI in K-12 education micro-credential, visit skills21.org/ai/micro. Thanks as always for tuning in!

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    57 mins

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On a fast ride: AI in teacher preparation

I am a teacher educator. While this podcast targets the K-12 environment, everything we do in teacher preparation is based on what happens in a K-12 setting. The structure, tone, pacing, and information in this podcast is very helpful in getting me up to speed on what I need to know about the use of AI in K-12 so that I can model experiences and assignments for my students. In fact, because this podcast is so helpful I am going to assign my students to listen to a range of episodes. Thanks to the team on their great work. Well done!

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