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Code and Country

Code and Country

By: Ian L. Paterson
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A podcast focusing on the intersection between cybersecurity, national security, and geopolitics© 2025 Ian L. Paterson
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  • Ep 15: Katie Moussouris, CEO Luta Security
    Jul 15 2025

    Katie Moussouris, founder and CEO of Luta Security, joins Code and Country to trace her path from MIT to pioneering vulnerability disclosure and launching “Hack the Pentagon.” She dives deep into the economics of the exploit market, the dangers of vulnerability disclosure laws, and how AI is shifting the dynamics of cybersecurity offense and defense. Katie also shares first-hand stories from her time shaping Microsoft's bug bounty program and working with the Pentagon. A must-listen for CISOs, IT leaders, and architects navigating the geopolitics of cyber risk.

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    40 mins
  • Ep 14: Robert Young Pelton Author, Journalist, Explorer
    Jun 17 2025

    In this episode of Code and Country, host Ian Paterson is joined by Robert Young Pelton, renowned war correspondent and author of Licensed to Kill and The World's Most Dangerous Places. Pelton shares firsthand accounts from his time embedded with the Taliban, Special Forces in Afghanistan, and rebel groups in Chechnya. He discusses the evolution of cyber warfare, the dark intersections of state and non-state actors in financial fraud, and how cyber tactics mirror battlefield strategy.

    Pelton also explores the chilling implications of compromised digital hygiene, from sat phone targeting to political hacks. A must-listen for CISOs, IT leaders, and architects concerned about the global cyber threat landscape.

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    32 mins
  • Ep 13: Andrew Amaro, Former CSIS Ops Lead
    Jun 3 2025

    What do spies, skateboarders, and startups have in common? Security.

    In this episode of Code and Country, former CSIS technical ops lead Andrew Amaro shares how his background in physical infiltration and cyber operations shaped his approach to enterprise security.

    We cover why insider threats remain the most overlooked risk, how physical access is still a cyber problem, and why org charts are failing security leaders.

    Andrew also explains how intelligence tactics can improve security posture, and why collaboration between cyber, physical, and executive teams isn’t optional anymore.

    If you’re thinking about supply chain risk, insider threats, or how to align security with business growth, this episode is for you.

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    32 mins
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