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Confessions with Jess and Cindy

Confessions with Jess and Cindy

By: Cindy Wagman and Jess Campbell
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Ever wish you could pull back the curtain and see how other nonprofit consultants run their businesses? Well, we’ve got you covered! Welcome to the Confessions podcast, hosted by Jess Campbell and Cindy Wagman. We are two former in-house nonprofit pros turned coaches and consultants to purpose driven organizations.


In this podcast, we are giving you access to the business leaders who serve nonprofits as their clients - you know - the people who truly get it. No more gatekeeping, no more secrets - this podcast is going to give you an inside look at what running a successful nonprofit coaching and consulting business looks like. Basically, we’re asking people how much money they make, how they get paid and what has and hasn’t worked in their businesses.


After building our own successful 6-figure nonprofit coaching and consulting businesses, we are on a mission to help other nonprofit coaches and consultants looking to start or scale their own businesses by pulling back the curtain.


Whether you are still working inside a nonprofit and thinking of one day going out on your own or have been running your consulting business for years - you understand that working with nonprofits is just different. Listen in as sector leaders and other experts share their insights, their numbers, and the good, the bad and the ugly when it comes to building a nonprofit coaching or consulting business.


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Episodes
  • When You're Drowning in Your Business: 5 Simple Fixes That Actually Work
    Jun 12 2025

    Ever feel like you're working harder but not necessarily smarter? In this candid conversation, Jess and Cindy pull back the curtain on the simple but game-changing strategies they use to stay productive, focused, and sane while building six-figure consulting businesses.

    From Cindy's "CEO weeks" that give her massive chunks of uninterrupted deep work time to Jess's 90-minute screen detox that flattened her afternoon energy crashes, this episode is packed with practical hacks you can implement immediately.

    Whether you're struggling with boundaries around your time, looking for ways to generate content ideas effortlessly, or just need permission to throw money at problems (hello, summer childcare!), this episode will give you the permission slip to experiment with what actually works for your life and business.

    Highlights:

    • Stop living in meetings if you want to grow your business. Cindy's CEO weeks—alternating between meeting-heavy weeks and deep work weeks—has been a game-changer for actually getting needle-moving work done
    • The first 90 minutes of your day set the tone for everything. Jess's screen detox (no screens, no caffeine before food) eliminated her afternoon energy crashes and helped with adrenal fatigue
    • Change your environment to change your energy. Sometimes the simple act of getting out of your house and walking to a different workspace can make you feel human again
    • Your best business ideas won't come at your desk. Jess generates weeks of content ideas during weighted vest walks—combining exercise, inspiration, and productivity in one efficient package
    • Throw money at the problems you can solve with money. From hiring summer babysitters to getting salads delivered, sometimes the best productivity hack is just paying someone else to handle it

    Ready to try CEO weeks? Start with just one protected week and see what happens.

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Brick: https://getbrick.app/?srsltid=AfmBOoo4tU7sTn04-E9A8rU8cxTkCwCBZoPF5OLMltu9ysX44DM3F_Jc
    • Diary of a CEO: https://www.youtube.com/TheDiaryOfACEO
    • IFC Conference: https://www.resource-alliance.org/event/ifc-2025/

    Find Us Online: https://www.confessionswithjessandcindy.com

    Connect with Cindy:

    Cindy Wagman Coaching: cindywagman.com

    Fractional Fundraising Network: fractionalfundraising.co/

    LinkedIn: ca.linkedin.com/in/cindywagman

    Connect with Jess:

    Out In the Boons: outintheboons.me

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jesscampbelloutntiheboons/


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    43 mins
  • From Health Crisis to Niche Success: How Dr. Tiffany Built a Virtual HR Department
    May 29 2025

    In this episode, Dr. Tiffany shares how her "faith walk" led her from feeling defeated in her corporate role to building HR Tailormade, a thriving consultancy serving as the virtual HR department for nonprofit organizations. She pulls back the curtain on her seven-year journey to clarity, how health challenges became the catalyst for entrepreneurship, and why it took finding the right marketing partner to finally get her messaging right.

    From structuring retainer relationships that make HR expertise accessible to small nonprofits to building strategic partnerships through intentional LinkedIn outreach, Dr. Tiffany offers a masterclass in building a consulting business that aligns with both your strengths and preferences (hello, fellow introverts!) while delivering exceptional value to clients.

    Highlights:

    • Define clear service boundaries in your virtual practice. Tiffany is so beautifully clear about what her virtual HR department doesn't do (recruiting and payroll) and instead builds partnerships with others who excel at those services. What a relief to know you don't have to do it all!
    • Simplify your marketing as a virtual consultant. After trying ALL the platforms, Tiffany realized her nonprofit clients were primarily finding her through LinkedIn and word-of-mouth. Sometimes less really is more when it comes to marketing your virtual services!
    • Ask for what you need, always. As Tiffany wisely says, "a closed mouth doesn't get fed." She shows us how to request testimonials and website mentions in ways that feel comfortable and authentic - essential skills for growing a virtual practice.
    • Be patient with your niche journey. It took Tiffany seven years to get completely clear on serving nonprofits as a virtual HR consultant. Business clarity emerges through experience, not perfect planning from day one.
    • Build a virtual support community. I love how Tiffany intentionally reaches out to 10 LinkedIn contacts weekly, resulting in quarterly meetings with trusted peers. This business journey is too hard to do alone, especially when you're working virtually!


    Resources Mentioned:

    • HR Tailor Made: https://hrtailormade.com/
    • Canva: https://www.canva.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/
    • Women's Business Center (St. Louis area) https://www.wbdc.org/en/event/getting-to-know-the-womens-business-center-st-louis/

    Find Us Online: https://www.confessionswithjessandcindy.com


    Connect with Dr. Tiffany:

    • Website :https://hrtailormade.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffany-e-slater


    Connect with Cindy:


    Cindy Wagman Coaching: cindywagman.com

    Fractional Fundraising Network: fractionalfundraising.co/

    LinkedIn: ca.linkedin.com/in/cindywagman


    Connect with Jess:


    Out In the Boons: outintheboons.me

    LinkedIn: linke

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    43 mins
  • Middle Class to Millions: Seeking more than “enough” with Shannon Brome-Ward
    May 15 2025

    "I'm gunning this year to get to double digit millions."

    That's not something you hear every day. But Shannon Brome-Ward isn't just any financial coach. As a money mindset coach and financial educator, Shannon is on a mission to help consultants move from middle class to millions, and she's not shy about her own financial goals.

    In this candid conversation, Shannon opens up about the mindset shifts required for consultants to build real wealth. She challenges the scarcity thinking that keeps so many of us (especially women) playing small with our pricing and financial goals. From explaining why "getting by" is no way to live, to breaking down exactly how to start investing with as little as $25 a month, Shannon brings practical strategies any consultant can implement immediately.

    If you've ever caught yourself whispering about wanting more money or felt guilty about charging premium rates while serving nonprofits, this episode is your permission slip to think bigger. Shannon walks us through how creating multiple revenue streams can provide the freedom to weather economic storms, and why having millions isn't about luxury—it's about options.

    Highlights:

    • Women and money shame is real. Shannon reveals why female consultants often whisper about wanting more money, while men never express concern about being "too greedy"—and how to overcome this limiting belief.
    • Millionaires have multiple paychecks. Learn why diversifying your income beyond your consulting business is critical for building generational wealth, and practical examples of revenue streams to consider.
    • Starting expert to build wealth.
    • Charge more, live on less. The simplest wealth-building equation: increase your consulting rates while becoming comfortable living on less than you make, and invest the difference.

    Resources Mentioned:

    • Podcast - From Middle Class to Millions: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/from-middle-class-to-millions/id1781017144
    • Website: https://www.thewholebudget.com/

    Find Us Online: https://www.confessionswithjessandcindy.com


    Connect with Shannon:

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewholebudget/reels/
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewholebudget
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheWholeBudget/
    • Website: https://www.thewholebudget.com/


    Connect with Cindy:

    • Cindy Wagman Coaching: cindywagman.com
    • Fractional Fundraising Network: fractionalfundraising.co/
    • LinkedIn: ca.linkedin.com/in/cindywagman


    Connect with Jess:

    • Out In the Boons: outintheboons.me
    • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jesscampbelloutntiheboons/


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    40 mins
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