In the inaugural episode of the Book Science podcast, host Tripp Collins interviews Duane Hamacher, an Associate Professor of Cultural Astronomy in the ASTRO-3D Centre of Excellence and the School of Physics at the University of Melbourne, about his book, The First Astronomers: How Indigenous Elders Read the Stars, co-authored with Indigenous elders. Over 15 years, Duane’s journey revealed the significant scientific insights embedded in Aboriginal astronomy, challenging initial dismissiveness towards these knowledge systems. He emphasizes the collaborative nature of the book, which intertwines technical astronomy with accessibility, themes of cultural science, and the integral relationship between Indigenous knowledge and the environment. The discussion explores Indigenous scientific observations—like the predictive prowess of Torres Strait Islanders, their sophisticated narratives around astronomical phenomena, and the cultural significance of these traditions. Duane also highlights upcoming projects that aim to further bridge Indigenous knowledge with contemporary scientific understanding, advocating for a mutual respect and humility in learning from these rich cultural insights.

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