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Conversations with MarTech

Conversations with MarTech

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As publishers turn to low-value and AI-generated content, they’re missing out on authenticity and original points of view.


Conversations with MarTech is a new series highlighting interesting points of view and interesting roles in the marketing and marketing operations space.


Season 1 of Conversations with MarTech debuts in January 2025. The premier season has already recorded five episodes, including:


  • Kara Heater, Director of Marketing for the Savannah Bananas baseball club (What can marketers learn from the Savannah Bananas?)
  • Mark Stouse, CEO of ProofAnalytics (What do C-level executives think of their GTM strategies?)
  • Len Devanna, VP of Customer Experience of Cortico-X. (Voice agents will change how you think about your brand and website)
  • Natalie Silverstein, Chief Innovation Officer, Collectively. (How influencer marketing became an essential channel)
  • Mike Rizzo, founder, MarketingOps.com (Want to understand marketing ops? Talk to this guy)


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Episodes
  • Hyper Adaptive: Redefining Organizations in the Age of AI with Melissa Reeve
    Jun 18 2025

    In this episode of 'Playbook Broken,' Marc dives into the rapidly changing landscape of marketing, driven by AI and automation. Featuring Melissa Reeve, a 25-year marketing veteran and co-founder of the Agile Marketing Alliance and Marketing Frontier.ai, the conversation explores the concept of 'Hyper Adaptive' organizations. Melissa discusses her upcoming book, organizational restructuring, and the need for dynamic governance over static playbooks. She also shares insights on the importance of AI literacy, social learning, and how to prepare for an AI-native future. Tune in to uncover how leaders can navigate this chaotic yet exciting new world.


    00:00 Introduction to Playbook Broken

    00:37 Meet Melissa Reeve: Marketing Veteran

    01:18 Hyper Adaptive: Melissa's New Book

    03:04 AI Literacy and Organizational Change

    04:41 The Future of Playbooks in Marketing

    07:45 The Human Aspect of AI Integration

    17:57 Stages of Hyper Adaptivity

    20:39 Future of Work and Leadership Challenges

    26:33 Learning in the Age of AI

    28:37 Personal Productivity and Overcoming Challenges

    31:46 Conclusion and Contact Information

    This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

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    32 mins
  • Playbook Broken: The Innovator's SEO: Navigating the New Age of Search with Matthew Kay
    Jun 11 2025

    Welcome to Playbook Broken, where outdated marketing tactics are left behind. Marc introduces Matthew Kay, the new head of Search for Active Campaign and co-founder of the Tech SEO Connect conference.

    They discuss the rapid evolution of SEO, driven by AI and changing user behaviors, and how traditional methods are becoming obsolete. The conversation covers the rise of new search platforms like TikTok, the pitfalls of performance marketing, and the importance of brand building in the current landscape. They also explore the concept of 'nihilist SEO' and the challenges of maintaining meaningful optimizations in a rapidly shifting environment.

    Tune in for insights on creating effective, future-proof marketing strategies.

    00:00 Introduction to Playbook Broken

    00:37 Meet Matthew Kay: SEO Expert

    00:54 The Changing Landscape of SEO

    04:15 The Death of Traditional Playbooks

    07:41 New Rules for Modern Marketing

    10:24 The Future of Brand and Performance Marketing

    17:24 Nihilism in SEO: A Critical Perspective

    21:30 Force Yourself: Overcoming Challenges

    22:23 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

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    24 mins
  • Playbook Broken: Rethinking Marketing with Molly St. Louis
    Jun 4 2025

    In the first episode of Playbook Broken, Marc Sirkin, CEO of Third Door Media, dives into the fast-evolving world of marketing and why traditional playbooks no longer work. Joined by Molly St. Louis, co-founder of Mosaic Group Media, they explore the effectiveness of social selling, the decline of traditional PR, and the complexities of brand measurement in today's AI-driven landscape.


    Molly shares insights from her career in media and marketing, including her personal journey of adapting to AI technology. Tune in to hear how these disruptors are navigating and reimagining marketing strategies in a rapidly changing digital age.


    Timestamps


    00:00 Introduction to Playbook Broken
    00:40 Meet Molly St. Louis: A Marketing Unicorn
    03:31 The Evolution of AI in Marketing
    08:23 The Power of Social Selling
    14:44 The Importance of Authenticity in Marketing
    18:22 The Essence of Social Selling
    19:52 Strategy Workshop Introduction
    20:29 Brand Measurement in Performance Marketing
    22:39 The Value of Brand and Attribution Challenges
    32:10 The Role of AI in Modern Marketing
    35:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

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    36 mins
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