Vin and Cam discuss The Fantastic Four: First Steps! What did the boys think of the new F4 movie? Is it worth checking out in 3D IMAX? How does it compare to their expectations, and what could come next for the MCU? Tune in to find out!

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The Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025) - Directed by Matt Shakman - Screenplay/Story by Josh Friedman, Eric Pearson, Jeff Kaplan, Ian Springer, Kat Wood - Starring Pedro Pascal (Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic), Vanessa Kirby (Sue Storm/The Invisible Woman) , Ebon Moss-Bachrach (Ben Grimm/The Thing), Joseph Quinn (Johnny Storm/The Human Torch), Ralph Ineson (Galactus), and Julia Garner (Shalla-Bal/Silver Surfer) - Music by Michael Giacchino

Timestamps:

oo:oo - Intro 00:56 - Matt Shakman 01:50 - Our history with The Fantastic Four 03:24 - Overall reaction to First Steps 04:26 - General story and plot of The Fantastic Four: First Steps (Spoiler warning) 09:14 - Seeing the movie in 2D vs 3D IMAX 11:30 - Mr. Fantastic Reed Richards in the movie 13:45 - What could have been better in the movie 16:10 - Superman vs Fantastic Four: First Steps, what we liked better 18:26 - Hopes and theories for the future of the characters 20:57 - Feige quote about recasting some original Avengers after Secret Wars 22:30 - Fantastic Four: First Steps Post Credit scene (spoiler) 26:26 - Final thoughts on the film 27:33 - Outros

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Host Uday discusses with Brian, Vic, and John the new SUPERMAN film starring David Corenswet, Rachel Brosnahan, and Nicholas Hoult (with spoilers!)... The four also talk about James Gunn's handling of the DC univese so far, and hopes and concerns for the future of the DCU.

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Timestamps 00:00 - Intro

01:00 - Was Superman (2025) a successful start to the DCU?

07:19 - Is this movie "messy"?

15:00 - The lack of an origin story at the beginning of the film and its effect on viewers being mixed

20:20 - James Gunn on origin stories

21:50 - Is the film easier to follow after seeing it a second time?

23:07 - Is this Superman film strong enough to build a franchise off of? Comparing to other depictions of Superman

24:45 - Debate about James Gunn being writer/director and in charge of everything there. Should he have more of a check and balance?

26:30 - Discussing the box office and deciding what constitutes a success

29:30 - More on James Gunn and the possible need for more checks and balances

36:25 - Batman v Superman comparisons. Snyder vs Gunn

40:45 - Is it good or bad for James Gunn to be trying to build a competitor to the MCU with the DCU while also wrapped up in his own projects? Could he wind up spread too thin here?

53:00 - Marvel vs DC and further thoughts on the future of the DCU

01:01:55 - Romance in the MCU vs Superman

01:04:10 - Favorite characters and performances in Superman

01:10:20 - Krypto and the intro of Supergirl at the end

01:14:04 - Outros

Join Vin and Vic as they delve into the world of The Fantastic Four in the lead-up to the release of the new Marvel Studios film The Fantastic Four: First Steps. In this podcast, they discuss some of the iconic comic runs for Marvel's First Family and their influence on the upcoming MCU film.

Featured recommendations:

- Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman

- Fantastic Four by #48-50 Jack Kirby & Stan Lee

Other recommendations:

- Fantastic Four by Jack Kirby & Stan Lee

- Fantastic Four by John Byrne

- Fantastic Four by Walt Simonson

- Fantastic Four by Mark Waid & Mike Wieringo

- Fantastic Four by Ryan North

Timestamps

• 00:00:0 - Intros
• 00:01:00 - Exploring Hickman’s Fantastic Four
• 00:04:27 - The Council of Reeds
• 00:07:34 - Modern Meets Classic Villains
• 00:10:16 - Marvel’s Creative Choices
• 00:10:47 - Stan Lee & Jack Kirby, and The Coming of Galactus
• 00:15:20- 60 Years of Fantastic Four Comics
• 00:16:18 - Fantastic Four in Multimedia
• 00:27:40- Outros

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