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Crimes and Consequences

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 Listen to the gripping details of the world's most brutal murders presented to you by two attorneys who rely on their sarcasm and wit to plow through the horrors of the crimes. Court and police records are heavily relied on to ensure the accuracy of each episode. Listen to Crimes and Consequences for your weekly dose of hardcore true crime.Crimes and Consequences, Inc. Social Sciences True Crime
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  • EP267: The Yosemite Killer

    EP267: The Yosemite Killer
    May 2 2025
    In EP267, we examine the deeply unsettling case of Cary Stayner, the Yosemite Killer. On the surface, Cary seemed quiet--reserved, even overlooked. But behind that silence was a storm of inner torment, obsession, and darkness. What makes his story even more chilling is the irony: Cary Stayner, was the brother of Steven Stayner (who we discussed in EP266), a national hero who survived a childhood abduction. While the world watched one brother's trauma unfold in the headlines, the other battled invisible demons--ones that would eventually erupt in brutal violence. This is not just the story of a killer- it's the story of unresolved trauma, twisted fantasies, and the shadow legacy of a family marked by tragedy.

    SOURCES:
    1) Sund details frantic hunt for wife, daughter: Father-husband testifies during Stayner’s preliminary hearing into slayings of 3 Yosemite visitors
    2) CBS News: The Yosemite Murders -- in photos
    3)Crime Library: Cary Stayner and the Yosemite Murders
    4) CBS Sacramento: 25 years later: FBI agent shares how he got Cary Stayner to confess to Yosemite killings
    5) SF Gate: Overshadowed All His Life / Low-key Cary Stayner took back seat to kidnapped brother
    6) 20/20 Episode: Evil in Eden
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    40 mins
  • EP266: The Kidnapping of Steven Stayner

    EP266: The Kidnapping of Steven Stayner
    Apr 26 2025
    At just seven years old, Steven Stayner was kidnapped by a predator who would hold him captive for seven long years--years in which the world moved on, but Steven was forced to grow up in the shadows of a stolen identity. His eventual escape and heroic rescue of another young boy made national headlines and turned him into a symbol of courage. But what happens after the cameras fade? Behind the media attention was a young man who had to piece together a life that had been taken from him. His story is not just about survival--it's about resilience, loss, and the quiet, ongoing struggle to reclaim a sense of self. Listen this week to Steven Stayner's story--he was a survivor whose story is as inspiring as it is tragic.

    SOURCES:

    1) Heroism and Horror: One Brother Was Kidnapped, The Other Became A Serial Killer
    2) Two kidnapped boys, a hero’s return, then a tragic twist: The unbelievable story of Steven Stayner
    3) Steven and Cary Stayner: The tale of two brothers' horror and heroism
    4) Steven Stayner's Kidnapping, Cary Stayner's Horrific Crimes and One Family's Unbelievable Story
    5) 'Captive Audience': Who Was Steven Stayner and What Happened To Him?
    6) Who Was Steven? : The Little Boy Who Had Been Kidnaped Never Found Himself
    7) He Was Abducted As A Child. Then His Brother Became A Serial Killer.
    8) Kidnapper Returns To Jail
    9) Molester Gets Life Term for Attempt to Buy a Boy
    10) A Child Abductee's journey back
    11) Steven Stayner Wikipedia Page
    12) The Little Boy Who Never Came Home
    13) Second Man Held in '72 Abduction of California Boy; Statute of Limitations
    14) Propensity Podcast: Episode 1: In the Shadow of Yosemite - Part 1: Steven Stayner
    15) Kenneth Parnell Wikipedia Page
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    34 mins
  • EP265: The Red Ripper Andrei Chikatilo - Part 2 of 2

    EP265: The Red Ripper Andrei Chikatilo - Part 2 of 2
    Apr 25 2025
    The manhunt was massive. The victims were piling up. And yet, for years, Andrei Chikatilo continued to slip through the cracks of the Soviet justice system. In Part 2 of this Early Release series, we follow the chilling escalation of The Red Ripper’s crimes—his increasingly brazen attacks, the wrongful arrests, and the sheer horror of a killer who seemed unstoppable.But justice would eventually catch up. We dive into the groundbreaking forensic work, the psychological profile that finally cracked the case, and Chikatilo’s jaw-dropping confession that stunned the world.🎧 Finish the story before it’s released to the public.Content Warning: This episode contains graphic discussions of sexual violence, murder, and crimes against children. Listener discretion is strongly advised.
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    43 mins
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I LOVE this podcast. It's everything I love about true crime podcasts all in one place! I want to get right into the story and these ladies do just that. These are well researched cases, most of which I have never heard (I thought that was impossible due to the amount of true crime podcasts I have blown through!) Thank you for everything you ladies do in producing a fabulous true crime podcast. I'm definitely a listener for life!

New favorite podcast!!

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I LOVE Tonya and Talia! This was the 2nd true crime podcast I listened to and LOVED from the beginning. I've tried other podcasts but they are NOT Tonya and Talia! Definitely a MUST listen!

My favorite podcast!

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I enjoy their unique take on true crime as best friends, lawyers, true crime fans and all around badass ladies.. especially when Tonya says oh!! for fucks sake.

T & T are Teriffic!!

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I usually tend to stay away from podcasts that have more than one host because in my experience they tend to get off subject and all I want to do is listen to some murder. These ladies don't do that, they stay focused on the story and they're both pretty hilarious and entertaining. I'm definitely sticking around for this ome!

Entertaining and informative

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Love your podcasts!!!
This guy sounds like a spoiled brat that basically got away with bad behavior starting at a young age. His mother appears to have covered up for him whenever he did something wrong instead of getting him help. Therefore, the result of this escalation is the multiple deaths of vulnerable women. The nerve of her to sue the police department for Toby!
Keep up the good work ladies!

SMH!

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Love this show! I love the way y'all give the info straight forward and also play of each other. It's comedic without being disrespectful of the victims.

I love that you get to the point and tell the story but also have great banter between the two of you.

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I am officially obsessed with this podcast. I just started it last week & I'm ALREADY almost through every episode. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do when I get caught up.
I love the fact I don't have to fast forward through endless chatter like I do on some podcasts. I love the fact there has only been 2 stories so far of things I've actually heard about before & I listen to all true crime. Lastly, I love that they don't shy away from the gruesome but give a warning before hand in case it might be too much for someone.
All in all, 5 stars. I would give it more if I could.

I'm officially obsessed

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Great job ladies! One thing that disgusts me with this one is the short ass prison sentences! It should be 25 yrs for each person killed. Ughhh.

Horrible parents

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I love you guys so much!!! I wish there was an episode for every day of my life!

y'all rock!!!

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I have listened to so many. But I absolutely love y’all! I love that you help bring it back to the actual story. And a few laughs too. I love y’all!

Don’t listen to the haters, even though they surely will!

Nikki Thiergart

Best true crime podcast

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