What if experiencing Jesus wasn’t reserved for spiritual elites—or the past? What if intimacy with God was meant to be the normal human experience, even in a world drowning in distraction?

In this powerful debrief episode, Steve and Colleen reflect on Steve’s recent conversation with John Eldredge about his book Experience Jesus—Really. Together, they unpack what it means to reclaim our union with God in a culture that has conditioned us for hurry, noise, and digital addiction.

From being “disciples of the internet” to the misunderstood beauty of ordinary mysticism, this episode is an invitation to return to presence—to rediscover your soul’s longing for daily connection with Jesus. They explore spiritual practices, emotional healing through union with Christ, and what it means to live with childlike wonder in a broken world.

📱 Learn how the P.A.U.S.E. App and “Experiencing Jesus” meditations can rewire your spiritual life

📖 Hear stories of personal transformation, simple postures of prayer, and ancient paths made new

❤️ Reflect on how healing, presence, and love reshape your walk with God—and the Church’s witness today

👉 This isn’t about doing more. It’s about experiencing more. Come rest in His presence with us.

Chapters

00:00 Rediscovering Faith in a Distracted World

01:54 The Importance of Guided Prayer

06:12 Disciples of the Internet

17:24 Ordinary Mystics and Intimacy with God

23:49 Practices for Experiencing God's Presence

25:01 Daily Encounters with God

26:22 Healing Through Union with Christ

29:13 Mental Health and Spiritual Well-being

32:52 Cultivating the Presence of God

39:09 The Urgency of Spiritual Connection

46:12 Practical Steps for Abiding in Christ

What if your soul has been trained not to experience God?

In this profound and timely conversation, Steve Adams sits down with bestselling author John Eldredge to explore the themes of his new book, Experience Jesus—Really. Together, they confront one of the most overlooked realities of modern spiritual life: we’ve been discipled by distraction, noise, and digital overload—and it’s making it harder to connect with God.

From reclaiming ancient practices to becoming “ordinary mystics,” John and Steve guide listeners into a deeper, more intimate daily encounter with Jesus. You’ll discover the path back to healing, peace, and joy—through union with Christ.

🎧 Topics covered:

Why you can’t focus in prayer (and it’s not your fault)

What it really means to be a disciple of the internet

How to become an “ordinary mystic” and live like David, Paul, and Mary Magdalene

Simple practices to experience Jesus daily

Healing through presence—not performance

📲 Mentioned Resources:

Experience Jesus—Really (book + study guide) https://a.co/d/64HLow3

Wild at Heart Ministries — https://wildatheart.org/

The Pause App – new “Experiencing Jesus” module https://wildatheart.org/apps/one-minute-pause/

When Laid to Rest (Wild at Heart Pause App Music)

By Patrick Rundblad

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – You’ve Been Discipled by the Internet

01:17 – Welcome to the Embracing Brokenness Podcast

03:03 – Why We Pause: A Prayer for Presence

06:00 – How’s Your Heart? Life, Ministry & Sabbath Rhythms

10:01 – Discipled by the Internet (Expanded)

14:18 – What Is an Ordinary Mystic?

17:39 – Is God's Love Really Better Than Life?

20:27 – Trauma, Anxiety & the Healing Union

24:29 – Why the Goal Is Union, Not Performance

28:04 – Why Experiencing God Feels So Hard (And What to Do About It)

29:56 – Examples of Ordinary Mystics

36:17 – Dwelling Within: The Indwelling Christ

39:00 – Practicing Union: Sacred Daily Rhythms

43:03 – One Thing You Can Do Today

44:31 – What Writing This Book Changed for John

45:56 – Closing

Is your view of God shaped by truth—or trauma? In this episode, Steve & Colleen explore how our past experiences distort our understanding of God, and how neuroscience, spiritual warfare, and abiding in Christ reveal the God who is truly love.

If fear has shaped your faith, this is the episode for you.