How can failure become a catalyst for growth in nonprofit leadership?
In this honest and empowering episode of the Rainmaker Fundraising Podcast, Andrew Olson is joined by Beth Fisher, CEO of Fisher Strategic. They explore how failure—especially public failure—can be one of the most powerful teachers for nonprofit leaders. Beth shares how to recover from setbacks, how to create psychologically safe cultures, and why investing in people is non-negotiable for organizations that want to grow. This episode offers practical insights for leading with authenticity, resilience, and empathy.

• (00:00:00) - Rainmaker: Failure and What We Can Do About It
• (00:00:56) - In the Elevator With Templeton Religion Trust's Director
• (00:01:55) - What is the Risk of Failure?
• (00:07:16) - Tom Clancy on Recovering From a Big Failure
• (00:10:17) - On Coaching and the Need for Support
• (00:14:00) - Steve Jobs on How Do You Manage Your Life?
• (00:15:34) - The 90 Day Leaders' Journey Email Course
• (00:16:47) - On the Toxic Environment
• (00:18:36) - The Need for a Safe Workplace
• (00:19:54) - Performance Review and the Gray Area
• (00:21:08) - Does the Enneagram Affect How You're Seen?
• (00:22:10) - The 3 Biggest Mistakes Nonprofits Make
• (00:25:48) - WSJDLive: Leading Transformational Change
• (00:27:20) - What Have You Learned From Your Biggest Fails?
• (00:30:50) - Rainmaker: A Request for Help