**Note: this interview is in Shipibo and Spanish. For a version with English subtitles, please view the versions on YouTube (hit 'CC' button), Spotify video, or Rumble**

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In episode 147 of the show, I spoke with Pervis Urquia. Pervis was recommended to me by my good friend Claire Bouleau who has been working with him for the last years. It was a pleasure to sit down with Pervis and his translator, Linberg, to speak about his life, his work, ayahuasca, dietas, prayers, God, and Shipibo culture. Pervis has a really beautiful and strong presence and I trust you will gain much from this interview. Thank you Beth Adele for the subtitles. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!

“Pervis Urquia is the seventh child of a large family from the Shipibo community of El Porvenir. His Shipibo name is Niwe, which means Pure Wind. From an early age, he witnessed the healing skills of his uncle Esteban, who used medicinal plants and chanted healing icaros to heal illnesses. In 1990, Pervis was confronted with an unknown disease, and despite seeking a cure in the city with pharmaceutical drugs, he found no improvement. But his luck changed when he met his uncle Cecilio Flores, who provided treatment using traditional medicine and the power of plants, with strict diets after eating plant leaves. He regained his energy and received praise from his uncle, who encouraged him to continue developing his potential and wisdom in the use of plants to cure diseases. His faith was strong practicing the power of prayers. He continues his mission of receiving patients and offering his valuable treatments based on ancestral knowledge of medicinal plants and their connection to the supernatural.”

To learn more about or contact Pervis, visit his website at: https://www.mokaparinete.org

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