Doree and Elise speak with Debbie Millman about learning how to garden and the steps that led to her latest book, Love Letter to a Garden, which features recipes from her wife Roxane Gay. The design legend and podcaster also shares how she has learned to embrace growth through discomfort, the thrilling yet difficult moments of teaching, and the decision to just start something new, even if it means looking foolish.

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Listeners tell Doree and Elise about great dinner recipe ideas for when you're in a dinner rut, their 5 year pandemic anniversary reflections, and how the past discussion on perfectionism resonated with them.

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Celebrity makeup artist Rachel Goodwin is back to share how to keep your concealer from moving too much, how to decide which makeup brush to use, where to apply blush, how to create a beautiful natural glow with makeup, and much more!

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Listeners call in to ask Doree and Elise more friendship month questions (keep ‘em coming!), the convo continues on what it means to learn new skills at mid-life, and why we all love Walter Goggins.

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Doree and Elise speak with Nichole Hill, the award-winning showrunner, audio producer and creator of the independent podcast Our Ancestors Were Messy. They discuss the history of Black newspapers, the lasting power of written gossip, why some of Nichole’s best memories of her dad are as a passenger in his car, and the reminder that it’s okay to be frivolous and romantic AND contribute to change.

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Elise spontaneously goes to a K-pop concert and Doree has a lovely night in with a Walton Goggins show. They hear from listeners about diving deep into the back catalog of your favorite podcasts, hair products to help with hair loss, friends flaking at the last minute, and a message for the AI-curious.

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Doree and Elise reflect on the five-year anniversary of Covid lockdown. Then, they invite Ash Perez (former BuzzFeed video star and current 2nd Try cast member) on to talk about his relationship to his father and masculinity, what his journey has taught him about the performance of gender, how he decides what information to share publicly and what to keep private, and what he’s doing to make sense of the news right now.

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Dor and E hear from listeners about their takeaways from friendship month (both the positive and the negative), why reaching out for connection is always a good thing, and therapy for therapists.

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