Grounded gets spicy with our friend Katie Phang, a former prosecutor, longtime legal analyst and former host of the Katie Phang Show. We chat about Iran, the Tucker Carlson v. Ted Cruz video, the necessary evolution of informative media and why Katie thinks there’s still a measure of respect for the Judicial Branch. If you’ve found yourself thinking you want more profanity from Grounded, this is the episode for you!

We had planned to solely chat with former Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn for this episode, but something happened Wednesday night that prompted us to add another guest to the mix. Dunn and JT share some behind the scenes anecdotes about Jan. 6, 2021, and their response to the Trump administration calling the LA protesters insurrectionists. We also talk to Land Tawney with the American Hunters and Anglers Action Network about new language in the Big, Beautiful Bill that would sell off public lands.

We tried something new in episode 26 by having a LIVE conversation with Dr. Heather Cox Richardson, America’s favorite historian. We cover the unrest in Los Angeles, the public Elon Musk/Donald Trump feud and the defining moments she thinks will be remembered in future history books. Plus, what keeps her up at night? What gives her hope? How does she decompress? You’ll hear it all on this special extended edition of Grounded.