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How We Survive

How We Survive

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"How We Survive" is an award-winning podcast from Marketplace, hosted by Amy Scott, about the messy business of climate solutions. In the seventh season, we investigate the rise, fall and reincarnation of Environmental, Social and Governance (ESG) investing. And we look at where Wall Street money is driving solutions, where it’s causing more problems, and we ask if capitalism is even compatible with sustainability.Copyright 2025 Minnesota Public Radio Economics Politics & Government
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  • Introducing “How We Survive”
    Sep 21 2021

    The climate crisis is here. The Western U.S. is burning, much of the Northeast is underwater after a hurricane and towns in Europe are swept away by massive floods. Time is slipping away to stop the worst effects of a warming planet, and the world is looking for solutions.


    On “How We Survive,” Molly Wood explores the technology that could provide some of those solutions, the business of acclimatizing to an increasingly inhospitable planet, and the way people have to change if we’re going to make it in an altered world.


    Decarbonization requires a lot of batteries, and many batteries require lithium. The need for lithium is driving a modern gold rush for the metal that could save the world, but relies on an old, dirty technology: mining. This season, we’ll dive deep into the economics, the tech and the human stories behind the rush for “white gold.” And unlike the gold rush of the 1800s, this time, our survival might depend on it.


    It all starts Oct. 6. Listen to the trailer now and be sure to follow the show so you don’t miss an episode.

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    4 mins
  • White Gold
    Oct 6 2021

    To get off fossil fuels, you need a lot of batteries. To get a lot of batteries, you need to mine a lot of lithium. Welcome to Thacker Pass, Nevada, where a proposed lithium mine has sparked protests from farmers, ranchers and the native Paiute–Shoshone tribe.


    Some tribal members reject the idea that they should sacrifice their ancestral home for the climate fight, while others say that their history is being distorted and co-opted by protestors. And farmers and ranchers in the area who have never had to sacrifice their way of life really don’t want to.


    We traveled to Thacker Pass to report on a fractured community thrust to the front line of the fight to save us all.

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    36 mins
  • The Necessary Evil
    Oct 13 2021

    Mining is a complicated business. It’s destructive, it’s dangerous. But in order to get the lithium we need to power the energy transition, mining could be a necessary evil.


    In this episode, we go from protests in South America to a gold mine in Nevada, where we take a ride on what looks like a massive Tonka truck, all in the hopes of finding out if there’s a better way to do things while getting the metal we need to survive.


    After talking to mining experts, environmental justice advocates and a very vocal CEO, we get some answers.

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    32 mins
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Lots of interviews includes controversial discussion with Max Wilbert about Thatcher Pass lithium mining.

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