Tracy and Steph explore where (and why) friction exists, and how we can look at both heavier experiences and lighter seasons in new ways.

The Wild Goose (Tracy's Podcast)

The Zev Project (Steph's Podcast)

4those (Steph's Nonprofit)

Steph and Tracy respond to questions about where they find God in their lives and in the world around them.

The Wild Goose (Tracy's Podcast)

The Zev Project (Steph's Podcast)

4those (Steph's Nonprofit)

Tracy might have finally stumped Steph with this one as they deep dive into some big conversations around what it looks like to be made in the image of Them.

The Wild Goose (Tracy's Podcast)

The Zev Project (Steph's Podcast)

4those (Steph's Nonprofit)

Abundance, lack, goals, God, stewardship...it's all in there somewhere.

The Wild Goose (Tracy's Podcast)

The Zev Project (Steph's Podcast)

4those (Steph's Nonprofit)

Tracy and Steph get in touch with anger...or at least with what it might feel like to get in touch with it.

The Wild Goose (Tracy's Podcast)

The Zev Project (Steph's Podcast)

4those (Steph's Nonprofit)

Tracy and Steph go back and forth about what's (potentially) next for both of them in this season.

The Wild Goose (Tracy's Podcast)

The Zev Project (Steph's Podcast)

4those (Steph's Nonprofit)

Steph and Tracy discuss what it means to experience depths of peace in and after chaotic waters.

The Wild Goose (Tracy's Podcast)

The Zev Project (Steph's Podcast)

4those (Steph's Nonprofit)

Tracy and Steph discuss where true satisfaction resides in our lives today.

The Wild Goose (Tracy's Podcast)

The Zev Project (Steph's Podcast)

4those (Steph's Nonprofit)