If You Really Knew Me

By: Ben Sorrells & Kim Willey - Bridge Podcast Network
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  • Join Ben and Kim as they discuss ways to improve personal and professional relationships with some help from the Enneagram. A personality tool about motivations rather than behavior. They will share insights on how to use this tool all while keeping Jesus at the center of your life.
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  • Episode 48 - Good Grief? - Part 2

    Episode 48 - Good Grief? - Part 2
    Mar 28 2025
    This episode is part 2 of a discussion about grief, featuring licensed clinical professional counselor Chelsea Steinsdorfer. Hosts Kim Willey and Certified Enneagram Coach Ben Sorrells explore how different Enneagram types experience and process grief, including common behaviors, challenges, and helpful coping strategies for each type.KEY TAKEAWAYSEach Enneagram type has distinct needs and ways of processing griefUnderstanding your type can help identify healthy ways to work through griefAnger and anxiety are common grief responses across all typesTaking care of physical needs (sleep, exercise) is important while grievingScripture and faith can be powerful tools for managing grief-related anxietyRESOURCESPsychologyToday.com - For finding a counselorBetterHelp.com - Online counseling platformWhat Each Type Wants During GriefType 1 2 Corinthians 12:9 “But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weakness, so that Christ’s power may rest on me.”(Brittany's work referenced for type-specific grief responses): Type 1’s want to know the “right” way to proceed with guidelines. Type 2’s want support and approval of others while figuring out how to move forward. While they want support from others, they also want to support others grieving to help strengthen their bonds with those people. Type 3’s want to know and set goals quickly. They want to express their emotions but not be overwhelmed by them.Type 4’s want to discover what is “missing” whether within themselves or in the grieving process. They want to fully express and feel their emotions.Type 5’s want clarity before making decisions. They also want to avoid excess emotions (both theirs and others). Type 6’s want certainty in plans and in loyalty. They also want reassurance about the future.Type 7’s want to explore a range of options. They want freedom to do what they want to do and they prefer quick decisions. Type 8’s want some sort of control of either themselves or the situation. They want to get things rolling and to move forward.Type 9’s want to take all points into consideration before doing anything. They also want to avoid conflict and to help reduce others’ discomfort. WAYS TO CONNECTNewsletter: Subscribe for further information about enneagram types and regular updates from the podcast. Visit our website, wearethebridge.org/enneagram, to subscribe and find more episodes, resources, and show notes.Social Media: Follow us for updates and more encouraging content:**Instagram**:@enneagrampodcast**Facebook**:@enneagrampodcastEmail: Have questions or suggestions? knewme@wearethebridge.orgSubscribe and Review: Don’t forget to subscribe to us on your favorite podcast platform and leave a review to help others discover the show.Would you like to have YOUR question answered and maybe even featured on a future episode? Submit your enneagram question to knewme@wearethebridge.orgIf you find this information helpful to you, SUBSCRIBE and journey with us.If you’re not sure where to start but want to know more, refer to Ep 2 - The Enneagram ExplainedInfo credit: Beth McCord (Your Enneagram Coach)Hosts: Kim Willey and Ben SorrellsBen is a Certified Enneagram Coach through YEC and Beth McCordHelpful Links:Discover your Enneagram Type: Here's one that we like! YEC Enneagram Type AssessmentLearn about all 9 types: 9 Types OverviewIn-depth Enneagram Courses: YEC Enneagram Courses Please share If You Really Knew Me with a friend if you enjoyed this episode. If You Really Knew Me is still growing, and your positive review and 5-star rating would help.The Bridge Podcast Network is made possible by generous support from The Boardwalk Plaza Hotel and Victoria’s Restaurant on the boardwalk in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware - Open 7 days a week, year-round - Learn more at https://boardwalkplaza.comFeedback, or Show Ideas? Send an email to knewme@wearethebridge.orgDownload The Bridge Mobile App to get the latest podcast episodes as soon as they are published!
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  • Episode 47 - Good Grief? - Part 1

    Episode 47 - Good Grief? - Part 1
    Mar 21 2025

    In this episode, licensed clinical professional counselor Chelsea Steinsdorfer joins hosts Kim and Ben to discuss grief, its various seasons, and how different Enneagram types may experience loss.

    Chelsea shares her personal journey through grief, including the loss of her father and years of infertility, and how these experiences shaped her approach to grief counseling. The conversation explores the five seasons of grief - denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance - and how grief manifests as waves that come and go.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS

    • Grief isn't just about death - it can be any significant loss including relationships, jobs, or life plans
    • The term ""seasons"" is preferred over ""stages"" as grief isn't linear and can come back around
    • Each Enneagram type may experience and process grief differently
    • Processing grief alone isn't recommended - support from others or professional help is valuable
    • Accepting grief doesn't mean forgetting or ""moving on"" - it's about learning to live with the loss
    • Preparing a ""coping toolbox"" during good days can help during difficult waves of grief
    • Resources:
    • Books:
    • "Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy" by Mark Vroegop - about discovering the practice of lamenting

    RESOURCES

    Books:

    "Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy" by Mark Vroegop - about discovering the practice of lamenting

    Counseling Resources:

    PsychologyToday.com - find local counselors that match your needs

    BetterHelp.com - online counseling platform

    Biblical Reference:

    Psalm 34:18 - "The Lord is near to the brokenhearted, and saves the crushed in spirit"

    For more about the Enneagram types, listeners are encouraged to refer to Episode 2 of the podcast.

    WAYS TO CONNECT

    Newsletter: Subscribe for further information about enneagram types and regular updates from the podcast. Visit our website, wearethebridge.org/enneagram, to subscribe and find more episodes, resources, and show notes.

    Social Media: Follow us for updates and more encouraging content:

    **Instagram**:@enneagrampodcast

    **Facebook**:@enneagrampodcast

    Email: Have questions or suggestions? knewme@wearethebridge.org

    Subscribe and Review: Don’t forget to subscribe to us on your favorite podcast platform and leave a review to help others discover the show.

    Would you like to have YOUR question answered and maybe even featured on a future episode? Submit your enneagram question to knewme@wearethebridge.org

    If you find this information helpful to you, SUBSCRIBE and journey with us.

    If you’re not sure where to start but want to know more, refer to Ep 2 - The Enneagram Explained

    Info credit: Beth McCord (Your Enneagram Coach)

    Hosts: Kim Willey and Ben Sorrells

    Ben is a Certified Enneagram Coach through YEC and Beth McCord

    Helpful Links:

    Discover your Enneagram Type: Here's one that we like! YEC Enneagram Type Assessment

    Learn about all 9 types: 9 Types Overview

    In-depth Enneagram Courses: YEC Enneagram Courses

    Please share If You Really Knew Me with a friend if you enjoyed this episode. If You Really Knew Me is still growing, and your positive review and 5-star rating would help.

    The Bridge Podcast Network is made possible by generous support from The Boardwalk Plaza Hotel and Victoria’s Restaurant on the boardwalk in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware - Open 7 days a week, year-round - Learn more at https://boardwalkplaza.com

    Feedback, or Show Ideas? Send an email to knewme@wearethebridge.org

    Download The Bridge Mobile App to get the latest podcast episodes as soon as they are published!
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  • Episode 46 - Fear and Anxiety

    Episode 46 - Fear and Anxiety
    Feb 21 2025
    Has anxiety and fear ever gripped you so tight that you didn’t know how to respond to it? Sometimes, as believers, we can feel shame over the inability to handle anxiety and fear. In this episode, hosts Ben Sorrells and Kim discuss anxiety, its various forms, and how different personality types (using the Enneagram framework) experience and handle anxiety. They share personal experiences and provide practical strategies for managing anxiety, emphasizing the importance of seeking professional help when needed and maintaining a strong spiritual foundation.KEY TAKEAWAYSThere are both helpful and unhelpful forms of anxietyDifferent causes of anxiety include biological, environmental, and psychological factorsThe importance of professional help (doctors, counselors, therapists) in managing anxietyHow different Enneagram types experience and process anxietyThe power of breathing techniques and meditationThe significance of changing pace and environment to gain new perspectivesThe role of faith and scripture in managing anxietyThe importance of not facing anxiety aloneRESOURCES1. Scripture Resources:Psalm 232 Corinthians 10:4-52. Musical Resources:"Still Waters" by Lena Crawford (featuring Psalm 23)3. Anxiety Management Tools:Breathing appsBox breathing techniqueAshwagandha supplements4. Professional Support Options:Primary care physiciansTherapistsCounselorsNatural health practitionersADDITIONAL RESOURCES12-minute scripture meditation on anxiety and fear (narrated by Pastor Steven Furtick)Christian songs about fear and anxiety:No Fear - Jon ReddickStill Waters (Psalm 23) - Leanna CrawfordHard fought Hallelujah - Brandon LakeDesperate - Jamie MacDonaldAnxious Heart - Jeremy CampBible verses to overcome each Enneagram Type's greatest fearType 1 2 Corinthians 12:9 “But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weakness, so that Christ’s power may rest on me.”Type 2Romans 8:37-39 “No, in all things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”Type 3Colossians 3:23 “Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters.”Type 4 Psalm 139:14 “I praise you because I am fearfully adn wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.”Type 5Psalm 118:6-7 “The Lord is with me; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? The Lord is with me; he is my helper.”Type 6Deuteronomy 31:6 “Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.”Type 7Jeremiah 29:11 “For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.”Type 8Isaiah 52:12 “But you will not leave in haste or go in flight; for the LORD will go before you, the God of Israel will be your rear guard.”Type 91 Peter 1:2 “You were chosen according to the purpose of God the Father and were made a holy people by his Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be purified by his blood. May grace and peace be yours in full measure.”Note: This episode provides general information about anxiety and should not be considered medical advice. Please consult healthcare professionals for personal medical concerns.WAYS TO CONNECTNewsletter: Subscribe for further information about enneagram types and regular updates from the podcast. Visit our website, wearethebridge.org/enneagram, to subscribe and find more episodes, resources, and show notes.Social Media: Follow us for updates and more encouraging content:**Instagram**:@enneagrampodcast**Facebook**:@enneagrampodcastEmail: Have questions or suggestions? knewme@wearethebridge.orgSubscribe and Review: Don’t forget to subscribe to us on your favorite podcast platform and leave a review to help others discover the show.Would you like to have YOUR question answered and maybe even featured on a future episode? Submit your enneagram question to knewme@wearethebridge.orgIf you find this information helpful to you, SUBSCRIBE and journey with us.If you’re not sure where to start but want to know more, refer to Ep 2 - The Enneagram ExplainedInfo credit: Beth McCord (Your Enneagram Coach)Hosts: Kim Willey and Ben SorrellsBen is a Certified Enneagram Coach through YEC and Beth McCordHelpful Links:Discover your Enneagram Type: Here's one that we like! YEC Enneagram Type AssessmentLearn about all 9 types: 9 Types OverviewIn-depth Enneagram Courses: YEC Enneagram Courses Please share If You Really Knew Me with a friend if you enjoyed this episode. If You Really Knew Me is still growing, ...
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