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In the Church Library

In the Church Library

By: Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis
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Join Kelsey Kramer McGinnis and Marissa Franks Burt for conversation around popular Christian resources found in church libraries. The first season focuses on parenting books Kelsey and Marissa read as they wrote their forthcoming book The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families.

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Episodes
  • Gary & Anne Marie Ezzo and Growing Kids God's Way, Part 2
    Jun 26 2025

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library to discuss the Growing Kids God's Way parenting empire. In Part 2, we discuss how Gary and Anne Marie came to be popular Christian parenting experts, their curricula Growing Kids God's Way, and the controversy surrounding their methods.

    For more reading on the Ezzos, see http://ezzo.info/

    "The Parent Trap," by: Jensen Davis takes an in-depth look at the Ezzos' approach

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold!

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • A Conversation with Catherine McNiel & Jason Hague, authors of Mid-Faith Crisis: Finding a Path Through Doubt, Disillusionment, and Dead Ends
    Jun 19 2025

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library for a conversation with Catherine McNiel and Jason Hague, authors of the book Mid-Faith Crisis: Finding a Path Through Doubt, Disillusionment, and Dead Ends.

    Connect with Catherine online: Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram, Threads, Twitter/X

    Connect with Jason online: Facebook

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold!

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    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now.

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    53 mins
  • Q&A: Ask Us Anything! Part 2
    Jun 12 2025

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library as they answer your questions. In Part 2, they answer:

    1:27 Q: How do you internally & externally handle criticism of your toddlers displaying developmentally appropriate but situationally inappropriate behaviors that children trained under authoritarianism typically don't do?

    11:09 Q: What recommendations do you have for church children's ministry training?

    We mention: Center for Faith and Children, Godly Play & Catechesis of the Good Shepherd

    13:58 Q: What is your favorite part about being a mother?

    17:24 Q: What parameters have you found to be the norm for how spanking occurs? Did the ancient Israelites spank their children for education?

    36:07 Q: Where did you go to school(s)?

    39:38 Q: What are some healthy Christian parenting books you enjoy?

    Households of Faith, by: Emily Hunter McGowin; Connected Families, Flourishing Homes and Families

    46:47 Q: What (if any) resources you read including anything about disability? Esp developmental?

    56:12 Q: How did you get into the pitfalls of Christian parenting?

    1:00:32 Q: Did either of you experience any evangelical parenting techniques as children?

    1:05:15 Q: And a clarification regarding nouthetic/biblical counseling and why we use the term

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold!


    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now.

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    1 hr and 8 mins
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