Have you ever thought that staying married was simpler than it truly is? In this insightful and at times humorous episode of the Jesus Over Everything show, Lisa Whittle engages with author and comedian Harrison Scott Key about the real-life complexities of marriage, as detailed in his book, How to Stay Married.

With a mix of humor and vulnerability, Harrison discusses how the writing process forced him to confront the hard truths in his life, especially surrounding his marriage, which faced the test of infidelity.

Listen in to learn how honesty can become a way to heal, how communication can become a powerful tool for couples, and how discussing sensitive issues can bring families closer together. Join Lisa and Harrison as they peel back the layers on marriage, infidelity, and the strength that comes from being real with oneself and God.

Key Moments to Discover:
(1:41) - Wrestling with beliefs and the writing process
(7:03) - Harrison’s book title: a bold statement on commitment
(14:44) - Understanding the necessary truth: dying to self in storytelling
(17:46) - Grasping the pain of infidelity and betrayal
(22:52) - The complexities of writing about loved ones
(26:28) - Harrison’s key advice for aspiring writers
(38:48) - The importance of honesty and true community within the church
(44:07) - Navigating tough conversations with kids about marriage challenges

Mentioned in the Episode:

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BODY & SOUL ONLINE GATHERINGS: MAY 2025: https://www.lisawhittle.com/gathering

Calling all Bible Study Leaders, Small Group Hosts, and Moms of Teenage Daughters! Join Lisa Whittle for an exclusive online gathering where you'll learn to guide women in exploring a biblical perspective on body image and health. Don’t miss this opportunity to engage before the release of her upcoming Bible Study, Body & Soul, launching in July 2025. For more details and registration, visit lisawhittle.com/gathering!

Connect with Harrison:

Book - How to Stay Married: https://a.co/d/cMKDcQB

Website: https://www.harrisonscottkey.com

Instagram: instagram.com/harrisonscottkey

Facebook: facebook.com/harrisonscottkey

Connect with Lisa:

Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com

Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Have you ever felt like your beliefs about God and your experiences of Him are worlds apart? In this special guest episode of the “I Used to Think” season, Lisa Whittle invites Pastor Steve Cuss to explore the complex relationship between our expectations and the reality of God’s love. Drawing insights from his book, “The Expectation Gap: The Tiny, Vast Space Between Our Beliefs and Experience of God,” Steve and Lisa delve into the struggles of doubt, vulnerability, and the importance of authenticity in the faith journey. Discover how you can confront your misconceptions, embrace the gifts God provides, and learn to receive His love more fully.

Listen in to learn more:
(0:22) - Meet Steve Cuss: Understanding the chaplain and pastor perspective
(4:50) - A candid look at the relatable struggles of doubt and fear
(11:02) - The biggest challenge facing those in vocational ministry
(19:02) - Finding divine gifts tailored for you within your journey
(31:51) - The lasting impact of agreements we make throughout life
(35:18) - Why downplaying pain can hinder growth and healing
(41:39) - Debunking the myth: “strong people” vs. “weak people”

Mentioned in the episode:

The Expectation Gap: https://a.co/d/bOXAIVX

Crossway: https://www.crossway.org/Plus

Prep Dish: https://prepdish.com/JOE

Called Creatives: https://www.calledcreatives.com

Resources:

Special thank you to this season’s sponsors of the Jesus Over Everything show:

Crossway: “The Story of Jesus: A Guided Journey Through the Gospel of John” shares the gospel message in an inviting, book-like format that's accessible for both nonbelievers and new Christians. Pick up a copy wherever books are sold or visit the link above to learn how you can get 30% off with a Crossway+ account.

Prep Dish: Prep Dish is the best way for busy people to get nourishing meals on the table, without the stress. Listeners of the JOE Show can enjoy a FREE two-week trial of Prep Dish meal plans by visiting the link above.

Connect with Steve:
Website: http://www.stevecusswords.com
Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/stevecusswords
Being Human (Podcast): https://www.christianitytoday.com/podcasts/being-human

Connect with Lisa:

Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com

Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial

Do you often find yourself taking on the emotional burdens of others? In this compelling episode of the “I Used to Think” season, Lisa Whittle dives deep into the topic of empathy—specifically, why we sometimes rush to carry the traumas and pains of those we love, even when it's not our responsibility.

Lisa shares personal insights that illuminate the fine line between compassion and overstepping boundaries. Discover four signs that indicate when your empathy has crossed the line and explore practical ways to support your loved ones without taking on their struggles. Listen in to learn how to love well while maintaining your own emotional health!

Discover more:

(0:50) - Understanding the “defender personality” and its impact

(3:12) - Examining the urge to shoulder others’ burdens

(8:56) - Four indicators that empathy has gone too far

(11:19) - Recognizing when you’re playing the role of counselor—red flags to watch

(17:45) - Best practices for advocating for others without losing yourself

(22:50) - The healthiest ways to support your loved ones

Mentioned in the Episode:

Prep Dish: https://prepdish.com/JOE
Crossway: https://www.crossway.org/Plus
Called Creatives: https://www.calledcreatives.com

Resources:

Special thank you to this season’s sponsors of the Jesus Over Everything show:

Prep Dish: Prep Dish is the best way for busy people to get nourishing meals on the table, without the stress. Listeners of the JOE Show can enjoy a FREE two-week trial of Prep Dish meal plans by visiting the link above.

Crossway: “The Story of Jesus: A Guided Journey Through the Gospel of John” shares the gospel message in an inviting, book-like format that's accessible for both nonbelievers and new Christians. Pick up a copy wherever books are sold or visit the link above to learn how you can get 30% off with a Crossway+ account.

Connect with Lisa:

Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com

Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial