Episodes

  • S02E21 - Dr. Nathaniel Swain On Prioritising What Matters: A Deep Dive into the Science of Learning
    Nov 16 2024

    In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Dr. Nathaniel Swain. He returns for the third time and this time it’s to unpack his new book Harnessing the Science of Learning. However, as you will hear, they actually go beyond the book and dig into some of the critical considerations that schools and teachers need to be making. They explore how to make teaching and learning the top priority in your school, reclaiming valuable instructional time often lost to distractions. They also unpack the essential elements of effective literacy and numeracy instruction, going beyond the surface level to understand the importance of a knowledge-rich curriculum, explicit teaching techniques, and structured implementation processes.

    They look at why teaching should be “Fun in the service of learning, not in spite of Learning” and some of the common barriers that school leaders face when initiating change.

    Resources mentioned:

    • Think Forward Educators
    • Bentleigh West PS
    • Riverwood PS
    • Churchill PS
    • Challis Community PS
    • Steve Capp
    • Lyn Stone
    • David Morkunas
    • Core Knowledge Foundation
    • Toni Hattan-Roberts
    • Doug Lemov
    • Tom Sherrington
    • Dr. Zach Groshell
    • Dr. Simon Breakspear
    • Katie Roberts-Hull
    • Helen Hughes

    You can connect with Nathaniel:

    Twitter: @NathanielRSwain

    Facebook

    Linkedin

    Order Nathaniel's book, "Harnessing the Science of Learning"

    Website: www.nathanielswain.com

    You can connect with Brendan:

    Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

    Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

    Website: learnwithlee.net

    Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:

    https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

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    1 hr and 33 mins
  • S02E20 - Dr. Zach Groshell and Brendan Lee on coaching, culture and change
    Oct 26 2024

    This is the second conversation between Dr. Zach Groshell and Brendan Lee. For those that don’t know, Zach is the host of the Progressively Incorrect Podcast and also the author of Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. In this episode, they take a deep dive into some of the key considerations that schools need to take when it comes to instructional coaching.

    For this episode, Zach’s four items were:

    • Schools need an instructional focus for coaching to be successful.
    • Coaching is not only about teaching techniques, but also about fostering teacher judgement.
    • Relationships with teachers should not overshadow the goal of coaching
    • Coaching cycles and drop ins don’t need to take all that long

    Brendan’s four points were:

    • Coaches need to shrink the change
    • Coaching should feel like a development process, rather than a judgemental one
    • Participants need to own the problem
    • Get granular with goal setting

    Resources mentioned:

    • Steplab
    • Josh Goodrich - Responsive Coaching
    • Teach Like a Champion
    • Peps Mccrea
    • Jim Knight
    • Tom Sherrington and Oliver Caviglioli - Teaching Walkthrus

    You can connect with Zach:

    Twitter: @mrzachg

    Podcast: Progressively Incorrect

    Website: educationrickshaw.com

    You can connect with Brendan:

    Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

    Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

    Website: learnwithlee.net

    Implementing the Science of Learning - For School Leaders

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    https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • S02E19 - Professor Nancy Jordan on Number Sense, Early Numeracy Screeners and Fractions
    Oct 12 2024

    In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Professor Nancy Jordan. She has been at the forefront of all things to do with early numeracy research including looking at screeners and intervention. Many of you come from the science of reading world and are fans of Scarborough’s Reading Rope, Nancy and colleagues have put together a Number Sense one! I’ve popped the citation in the show notes.

    Throughout this conversation she delves into what number sense is, why it’s important, how we can develop it and how to assess it. Nancy also covers the role of manipulatives and the transition to understanding fractions.

    Resources mentioned:

    • SENS: Screener for Early Number Sense
    • Number Sense Interventions
    • Jordan, N. C., Devlin, B. L., & Botello, M. (2022). Core foundations of early mathematics: refining the number sense framework. Current Opinion in Behavioral Sciences, 46, 101181.
    • ICME
    • Ginsburg, Greenes, & Balfanz - Big Math for Little Kids
    • Bob Siegler
    • Nora Newcomb
    • Chelsea Cutting.
    • What Works Clearinghouse

    You can connect with Nancy:

    Twitter: @Dr_nancyjordan

    Email: njordan@udel.edu

    Website: https://sites.google.com/a/udel.edu/nancy-jordan/

    You can connect with Brendan:

    Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

    Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

    Website: learnwithlee.net

    Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:

    https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • S02E18 - Rhonda Filmer on Neurodiversity and the Twice-Exceptional Student
    Sep 28 2024

    In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Rhonda Filmer, a gifted education consultant and teacher, she discusses her journey into the field and the importance of understanding neurodiversity and twice exceptional students. She has recently released a book, “Neurodiversity and the Twice-Exceptional Student” and they delve into some of the key points from the book throughout the episode.

    Resources mentioned:

    • Center on the Developing Child - Harvard University
    • Tom Bennett
    • Michelle Ronksley-Pavia
    • Gifted Education Resource Center at New South Wales University
    • Miraca Gross
    • SPELD NSW

    You can connect with Rhonda:

    Linkedin

    Book: Neurodiversity and the Twice-Exceptional Student

    You can connect with Brendan:

    Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

    Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

    Website: learnwithlee.net

    Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:

    https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • S02E17 - Brendan Lee and Dr. Zach Groshell on the nuances of teaching effectively
    Sep 14 2024

    In this episode of the Knowledge for Teachers podcast, Brendan Lee and Dr. Zach Groshell (Host of the Progressively Incorrect podcast) collaborated in the first of a series of episodes together. The theme for this episode was around what are the main principles that teachers need to understand about how learning happens and what are the key mechanisms of effective instruction.

    Zach’s 4 points were:

    1. Intrinsic motivation is a lofty goal but can't be depended upon.
    2. Use generative learning strategies after building prior knowledge - and without the help of AI.
    3. The environment is not the "Third Teacher" but it can be designed optimally.
    4. We might underestimate how much students appreciate receiving feedback.

    Brendan’s 4 points were:

    1. The instructional hierarchy is the single most important thing for teachers to know
    2. Desirable difficulties optimises learning
    3. Attaining and retaining attention is easier said than done
    4. Designing learning is more than just sequencing concepts in small steps

    Resources mentioned:

    • Haring and Eaton’s Instructional Hierarchy
    • Bjork and Bjork’s Desirable Difficulties
    • Fiorella and Mayer - Eight Ways to Promote Generative Learning
    • Stanislas Dehaene - How we learn
    • Daniel Willingham - Why don’t students like school
    • Amanda VanDerHeyden
    • Dylan Wiliam

    You can connect with Zach:

    Twitter: @mrzachg

    Podcast: Progressively Incorrect

    Website: educationrickshaw.com

    You can connect with Brendan:

    Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

    Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

    Website: learnwithlee.net

    Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:

    https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

    * This was originally published on 15 Sep 2024 with poor sound quality, it was re-published on 20 Sep 2024 with improved sound quality! Hope you enjoy the episode!

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    1 hr and 25 mins
  • S02E16 - Charlotte Peverett on the importance of having high expectations for all students including diverse learners
    Aug 31 2024

    In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Charlotte Peverett, an experienced learning specialist and inclusion outreach coach, who shares her journey into teaching and special education. Charlotte discusses the significance of structures and routines in creating a safe and consistent learning environment. Charlotte also emphasises the importance of high expectations for all students and the role of teachers in preparing them for adulthood and functioning in society. In this conversation, Charlotte and Brendan discuss the importance of positive reinforcement and effective implementation of Multi-Tiered Systems of Support (MTSS) in schools. They also speak the role of leadership in planning and using data to drive improvement.

    Resources mentioned:

    • Tom Bennett
    • La Trobe University - SOLAR Lab
    • Sherrington & Caviglioli - Teaching Walkthrus
      • You can listen to Tom speak about this on episode 5 of the Knowledge for Teachers podcast
    • Christopher Such - The Art and Science of Teaching Primary Reading
      • You can listen to Chris speak about this on episode 17 of the Knowledge for Teachers podcast
    • Rosenshine’s Principles

    You can connect with Charlotte:

    Twitter: @lifeoflottie

    Facebook: Science of Learning - Special Education Australia

    You can connect with Brendan:

    Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

    Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

    Website: learnwithlee.net

    Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:

    https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

    About Charlotte Peverett

    Charlotte is an autistic, special education Learning Specialist/Inclusion Outreach Coach in South-West Victoria. Her specialty is literacy and language intervention with a passion to introduce research and evidence-based practices into mainstream and specialist settings. Charlotte has her Master of Education (LIHI) and is a postgraduate research student with the Latrobe University SOLAR Lab and is an Honorary Affiliate member of the Institute of Special Education (InSpEd). Charlotte has presented at numerous conferences and works with schools to change systems and practices to ensure all students are reaching their full potential.

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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • S02E15 - Professor Jonathan Sharples on Implementation in Schools
    Aug 17 2024

    In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Professor Jonathan Sharples from the Education Endowment Foundation. He has led the recent update to the EEF’s A School’s Guide to Implementation and in this conversation we unpack the paper. Professor Sharples details the updates and why they were made. He also digs into each of the key elements. As Jonathan highlights, how something is done is as important as what is done and throughout this episode, he provides a number of practical strategies that schools can follow.

    Resources mentioned:

    • Education Endowment Foundation: A School’s Guide to Implementation - https://educationendowmentfoundation.org.uk/education-evidence/guidance-reports/implementation
    • Making Best Use of Teaching Assistants - https://educationendowmentfoundation.org.uk/education-evidence/guidance-reports/teaching-assistants
    • Darren Moore
    • Martin Weswell
    • Research Core Network
    • Active Implementation Hub
    • National Implementation Research Network
    • Robin Mildon
    • Centre for Evidence and Implementation

    You can connect with Jonathan:

    Twitter: @Sharples_J

    Website: educationendowmentfoundation.org.uk

    You can connect with Brendan:

    Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

    Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

    Website: learnwithlee.net

    Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:

    https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • S02E14 - Professor Bethany Rittle-Johnson on conceptual and procedural knowledge in mathematics
    Aug 3 2024

    In this episode, Brendan Lee speaks with Bethany Rittle-Johnson, a professor of psychology at Vanderbilt University. Bethany has led a lot of the research around conceptual and procedural knowledge. In this chat, she delves into this topic and also discuss other high impact strategies such as worked examples, self-explanations and the power of comparisons in supporting student learning.

    Resources mentioned:

    • Megan Frankly
    • The Ericsson Institute
    • DREME Network: dreme.stanford.edu
    • What Works Clearinghouse offers overviews of the research for K-12 education.

    You can connect with Bethany:

    Twitter: @BethanyRittle

    Linkedin

    Email: bethany.rittle-johnson@vanderbilt.edu

    You can connect with Brendan:

    Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

    Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

    Website: learnwithlee.net

    Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast:

    https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast

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    About

    My broad interests concern how people learn and how to improve their learning. My research focuses on learning of key concepts and problem-solving procedures within mathematics, with an emphasis on experiences that promote learning. I conduct this research in both laboratory and classroom contexts to better understand learning processes and contribute to improvements in math education.

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    1 hr and 4 mins