• Larry Summers on Trump: ‘The First Rule of Holes Is Stop Digging’

  • Apr 14 2025
  • Length: 13 mins
  • Podcast

Larry Summers on Trump: ‘The First Rule of Holes Is Stop Digging’

  • Summary

  • On this episode, the former president of Harvard University and former U.S. Treasury secretary explains the dangers of President Trump’s economic policies, and why we should expect more instability ahead.

    Thoughts? Email us at theopinions@nytimes.com.

    This episode of “The Opinions” was produced by Derek Arthur. It was edited by Alison Bruzek and Kaari Pitkin. The rest of the show's production team includes Vishakha Darbha and Jillian Weinberger. Mixing by Carole Sabouraud. Original music by Pat McCusker, Efim Shapiro and Carole Sabouraud. Fact-checking by Mary Marge Locker. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta and Kristina Samulewski. The director of Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.

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