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Law and Chaos

Law and Chaos

By: Liz Dye
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 Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.2024 Political Science Politics & Government
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  • Ep 141 — California to Trump: DROP DEAD

    Ep 141 — California to Trump: DROP DEAD
    Jun 13 2025

    A federal judge has ruled that Donald Trump illegally seized control of the California National Guard. We tell you everything that means and what happens next. Also, Kilmar Abrego Garcia is home and facing trumped-up charges in Tennessee. And Alina Habba is still cosplaying as a prosecutor, and this time she’s decided to try and indict a sitting member of Congress for doing her job.

    Links:

    Newsom v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70496361/newsom-v-trump/

    Abrego Garcia v. Noem [Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

    US v. Abrego Garcia [docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70475970/united-states-v-garcia/

    US v. Mciver [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70317726/united-states-v-mciver

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    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • Ep 140 — Protest =/= Rebellion

    Ep 140 — Protest =/= Rebellion
    Jun 10 2025

    The Trump administration is trying to provoke a riot in California by “federalizing” the National Guard. We’ll tell you what that means and what legal recourse blue states and cities have to resist being occupied by the military. Plus, it turns out that the Trump administration could facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia after all, it just needed to gin up a dubious criminal indictment first. And finally, Justin Baldoni’s trollsuit against Blake Lively meets precisely the demise we told you it would.

    Links:

    US v. Abrego Garcia [docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70475970/united-states-v-garcia/

    DHS Referral to DOJ (Abrego Garcia) https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2025/25_0418_hsi_referral-abrego-garcia.pdf

    Abrego Garcia v. Noem [District Docket] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

    Harvard College v. Department of Health and Human Services [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69921962/president-and-fellows-of-harvard-college-v-us-department-of-health-and/

    White House Memo Federalizing National Guard

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/



    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod
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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • Ep 139 — You Get A Civ Pro, And You Get A Civ Pro…

    Ep 139 — You Get A Civ Pro, And You Get A Civ Pro…
    Jun 6 2025

    Justin Baldoni’s lawyers are wilding out, the Justice Department is suing to purge North Carolina’s voter rolls, and Pillow Pumper Mike Lindell is teaching us about journalism shield laws. And for subscribers: Have Trump’s minions discovered one weird trick that will allow them to steal Congress’s tariff authority?

    Links:

    Kingdom v. Trump

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69717615/kingdom-v-trump/

    Trump's Justice Department examining pardons issued by Biden

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-justice-department-examining-pardons-issued-by-biden-2025-06-02/

    US v. Navarro

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63359365/united-states-v-navarro/

    J.G.G. v. Trump [District Court Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/

    Wayfarer Studios v. Lively

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69550325/wayfarer-studios-llc-v-lively/

    Lively v. Wayfarer Studios, LLC

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69510553/lively-v-wayfarer-studios-llc/

    Coomer v. Lindell

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63296393/coomer-v-lindell/

    Covington & Burling tariffs article

    https://www.cov.com/-/media/files/corporate/publications/2016/12/law360_the_presidents_long_forgotten_power_to_raise_tariffs.pdf

    19 USC 1338

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/19/1338


    US v. North Carolina State Board of Elections [docket via Court Listener]

    ttps://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70380331/united-states-v-north-carolina-state-board-of-elections/

    Help America Vote Act, 52 USC 21083

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/21083



    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod
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    1 hr and 3 mins
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I follow several lawyers and podcasts because I enjoy hearing about crazy court cases, long suffering judges and constitutional law.

But recently I've made a point of listening to Law and Chaos because I want to keep an ear on the current POTUS and his administration.. and I believe that Andrew and Liz do an amazing job with that... accompanied by the sharp wit and sarcasm that can only be obtained from years of experience with the law (and with morons)

I (almost) always feel better after listening because most of the judges in the US are at least trying to reinstate the rule of law, which Congress apparently no longer cares about.

IANAL but I love listening to them.

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So far the podcast has been a great breakdown of what to expect, and where to focus your attention on upcoming stories where politics intersects with the law. As a layperson, it's empowering to know which stories have real legal substance and which don't, and of course, Liz is covering the stories that matter most.

Expert analysis of important legal news

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