Episodes

  • 75// Evaluation and the Judgement of "What Is" against "What Should Be" with Dr. David Williams
    Dec 28 2021

    Today’s guest is my father Dr. David Williams. Dr. Williams is an emeritus professor from the Department of Instructional Psychology and Technology at Brigham Young University where he conducted and studied evaluations of teaching and learning in various settings. He currently serves as a missionary with his wife Denise for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints.

    Today we discuss: 

    • Everything Evaluation, what it is, and all of the moving parts associated with it
    • The difference between evaluation, measurement, and assessment 
    • Dr. Williams’ 10 part evaluation model, along with multiple examples 

    Resources

    • Dr. Williams Evaluation Model (image): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VEGkVJMQYoJRX2SP4iSEVd8wqYtaRvRQ/view?usp=sharing 
    • Seven North American Evaluation Pioneers (Book) https://books.google.com/books/about/Seven_North_American_Evaluation_Pioneers.html?id=8HpTDAAAQBAJ 
    • Twenty-Nine Evaluation Lives (Book) https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ev.20273 
    • Dr. Williams blog with entries about various individual evaluation lives: https://evaluationlives.blogspot.com/2017/08/introduction-and-invitation.html?m=1
    • Dr. Williams Qualitative Inquiry book (open access) mentioned in the end of our conversation - https://edtechbooks.org/qualitativeinquiry
    • Interview with Dr. Bonnie Beresford (episode 44) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/8659885
    • Interview with Megan Torrence (episode 63) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/8659853 
    • Interview with Sam Whitney (episode 26) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/8659853
    • Interview with Beth Wilkins (episode 49) https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/8659879 
    • Malcolm Gladwell and testing (podcast episode) https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/puzzle-rush/ 

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    1 hr and 27 mins
  • Bonus: Measuring the Outcomes of Learning Programs
    Dec 14 2021

    Today's show is a solo episode in which Greg gives an audio version of a mini-research study he conducted this year. 

    Check out the article here, and don't miss all the resources listed at the end!

    https://uxdesign.cc/solving-the-greatest-challenge-to-measuring-organizational-outcomes-of-learning-programs-5e4677a78ca7 

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    31 mins
  • 74 // Building Your Career Using Product Management Tools with Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts
    Nov 30 2021

    Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts join me again, but this time to talk about career development using PM tools and mindsets. Together they host Path into Product, a podcast for college students or professionals considering a career as a product manager but don't know where to start. Both Aaron and Ash are currently working as Product Managers at Weave Communications and have previous experience working with and in learning design environments. 


    Today we discuss: 

    • Building your career through curiosity, experimentation, and data collection 
    • Examples and stories of using product management tools for personal development
    • The importance of reflection and giving yourself space to be wrong
    • Using product management prioritization principles in career decisions

    Resources

    • Path into Product Podcast - https://anchor.fm/pathintoproduct 
    • Design Your Life (Book): https://designingyour.life/the-book/    
    • Design Your Worklife (Book Review Podcast Episode): https://www.buzzsprout.com/1797613/episodes/8659877 
    • Aaron’s article, “Want to be a Product Manager in Tech? Study the Humanities”: https://medium.com/@aaron.airmet/want-to-be-a-product-manager-in-tech-study-the-humanities-4ff169d9d0e6 
    • The Proximity Principle (Book): https://www.ramseysolutions.com/store/books/the-proximity-principle-by-ken-coleman
    • Borrowing Brilliance (Book): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/304339/borrowing-brilliance-by-david-kord-murray/ 
    • How Will You Measure Your Life? (Book): https://claytonchristensen.com/books/how-will-you-measure-your-life/ 
    • Measure What Matters (Book): https://www.whatmatters.com/the-book/ 
    • Linchpin (Book): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00354Y9ZU/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i5 
    • Way of the Peaceful Warrior (Book): https://www.peacefulwarrior.com/way-of-the-peaceful-warrior/ 

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    47 mins
  • 73 // A Product Manager Mindset with Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts
    Nov 16 2021

    Today’s guests are Aaron Airmet and Ash Roberts. Together they host Path into Product, a podcast for college students or professionals considering a career as a product manager but don't know where to start. Both Aaron and Ash are currently working as Product Managers at Weave Communications and have previous experience working with and in learning design environments. 

    Today we discuss: 

    • Different ways of defining product management
    • Frameworks and mindsets instructional designers can utilize to build better learning solutions
    • Curiosity, ruthless prioritization, and being a partner rather than an order taker
    • Measurement in product and navigating the constraints to make an impact

    Resources

    • Path into Product (Podcast) - hosted by Aaron and Ash - https://anchor.fm/pathintoproduct 
    • Borrowing Brilliance (Book) - https://www.amazon.com/Borrowing-Brilliance-Business-Innovation-Building/dp/1592405800 

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    • Facebook (NEW)
    • LinkedIn
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    46 mins
  • Book Review - Make It Stick: The Science of Successful Learning with Dr. Bryan Tanner
    Nov 2 2021

    Today I’m joined with Bryan Tanner, a recent PhD graduate from BYU’s Instructional Psychology and Technology department. He has a professional background in K-12, higher ed, and corporate instruction. Bryan is an avid reader of biographies and business nonfiction and our discussion today is all about this book. 

    From the book description: "To most of us, learning something "the hard way" implies wasted time and effort. Good teaching, we believe, should be creatively tailored to the different learning styles of students and should use strategies that make learning easier. Make It Stick turns fashionable ideas like these on their head. Drawing on recent discoveries in cognitive psychology and other disciplines, the authors offer concrete techniques for becoming more productive learners."

    In summarizing and reflecting on the book we cover topics such as: 

    • Learning myths and tactics to overcome them
    • 8 principles from the book that will change how you approach learning
    • And a bunch of examples from the book and our own lives of these principles in practice

    Resources

    • Make it Stick book resources: https://www.retrievalpractice.org/make-it-stick 
    • Bryan’s blog post book summary: https://bryantanner.wordpress.com/2018/04/02/8-techniques-to-encourage-long-term-memory-retention/ 
    • Feynman learning technique: https://fs.blog/2021/02/feynman-learning-technique/
    • BYU Idaho learning model - https://www.byui.edu/learning-model 

    Credits

    Introduction music, “For Mimi” by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • 72 // Using Constraints to Build a Micro Learning Product with Kate Udalova
    Oct 19 2021

    Kate is a marketer turned L&D expert, microlearning addict, and founder and product leader at 7taps, a micro-learning technology tool we dig into here in the episode. 

    Today we discuss: 

    • The features and overview of 7Taps and where it’s name comes from
    • The principles Kate follows to develop the product
    • How Kate leads her team with values and constraints in prioritizing what to build
    • What microlearning is best used for, and what it isn’t

    Resources

    • 7Taps company website - https://www.7taps.com/ 
    • MicroLearning: Short and Sweet (book) https://www.amazon.com/Microlearning-Short-Karl-M-Kapp/dp/1949036731 
    • Designing Microlearning (book) https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Microlearning-Works-Talent-Development/dp/1950496120/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=designing+microlearning&qid=1634094343&s=books&sr=1-3 
    • Check out the 2-week design challenge hosted by L&D Lounge and sponsored by 7Taps: https://thelearninganddevelopmentlounge.mn.co/users/onboarding/plans/165757

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    43 mins
  • 71 // Narrative Distance and Homiletics for Instructional Design with Dr. Stephan Taeger
    Oct 5 2021

    Dr. Stephan Taeger is a religious educator and an adjunct professor at Brigham Young University’s Department of Ancient Scripture. He has authored or co-authored chapters and articles in various instructional design, educational, and/or theological venues. Dr. Taeger’s research interests include homiletics and narrative instructional design.

    Today we discuss: 

    • The principles of Narrative Distance and its applications to instructional design
    • Insights from Homiletics –the practice and craft of preaching– for designing learning
    • Creating cognitive and emotional space for people to learn through indirect stories
    • How to use story to create meaningful content that promotes transformational change

    Resources

    • Dr. Taeger’s Article we discuss: Applying the Design of Narrative Distance to Instruction https://edtechbooks.org/jaid_10_2/applying_the_design_
    • Adam Grant’s book, “Think Again” - https://www.adamgrant.net/book/think-again/ 
    • First few minutes of the Disney Pixar movie “Up” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2bk_9T482g 
    • Nike golf clubs - the power of the Halo Effect - https://www.fastcompany.com/3055747/proof-you-really-will-golf-better-with-a-nike-branded-club 
    • Dr. Taeger’s website: https://www.stephantaeger.com/ 

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    53 mins
  • 70 // Design Thinking and Getting Learner Perspective with Laura Fletcher
    Sep 21 2021

    Laura Fletcher is a Senior Program Manager for Leadership Development at Salesforce where she designs and manages programs that improve performance and engagement. Prior to joining Salesforce, she was the Manager of Instructional Design at Bottom-Line Performance, where she led a team that designed and developed award-winning learning solutions. Laura co-authored the book, "Design Thinking for Training and Development," published by ATD Press in 2020 which we’ll get into in this episode. 

    Today we discuss: 

    • Designing for learner value rather than engagement 
    • Adapting the sweet spot for innovation for learning design
    • Handling training requests
    • Examples and stories that illustrate the principles of the book

    Resources

    • The book: https://www.amazon.com/Design-Thinking-Training-Development-Sharon/dp/195049618X 
    • Connect with Laura on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurafletcher-indy/ 
    • Stanford D School website: https://dschool.stanford.edu/resources 
    • IdeaU.com resources - https://www.ideou.com/ 

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    51 mins