In this stirring episode of Listen To Your Footsteps, Kojo Baffoe sits down with iconic South African singer, songwriter, and activist Simphiwe Dana, as she reflects on two decades of music, motherhood, loss, identity, and resilience. With trademark grace and searing honesty, Simphiwe offers insight into the making of a celebrated artist and a deeply personal reflection on womanhood, purpose, and the spiritual nature of creation.
Born in the Transkei and raised in Lusikisiki, Simphiwe’s childhood was shaped by movement, responsibility, and the discipline of being the firstborn. She shares vivid memories of growing up surrounded by nature—fetching water, hunting birds, and playing in rivers—which grounded her in a spiritual relationship with the world. This, combined with her father’s role as a preacher and the harmonies of church choirs, formed the foundation for her work: political, poetic, and rooted.
Listeners are taken back to a defining moment at Johannesburg’s 206 bar, where Simphiwe nervously took the stage at a poetry night, closed her eyes, and sang Jill Scott’s “A Long Walk.” The standing ovation led to her first televised performance and her acclaimed debut album Zandisile. Behind the success was a deliberate choice: to leave a career in IT and leap into the unknown, trusting only her instincts and her voice.
Dana speaks passionately about her creative process. For her, music is spiritual, a sacred act requiring silence, solitude, and surrender. “Something takes over,” she says. “It’s like standing on holy ground.” Her albums are milestones—emotional and political responses to moments that shift her understanding of the world.
The conversation also explores grief, especially after the loss of her mother. Dana shares how it made her stop talking, stop eating, and retreat inward. She relied on wine as a means of escape and still cannot bring herself to open her mother’s final messages. “I feel like if I do, I will fall apart, and I cannot afford to fall apart.”
Her identity as a mother and provider is a central thread. She raises two children as a single parent—both now university students. She reflects on performing with a baby on her hip, breastfeeding between studio takes, and relying on chosen family. Her parenting style is open to critique and deeply invested in emotional growth.
This episode also critiques the South African music industry and the country’s relationship with its cultural identity. Dana speaks about the lack of support for local artists, the devaluation of home-grown creativity, and the post-apartheid failure to rebuild cultural patriotism. “Play the music,” she says. “We’re not asking for charity. We’ve done the work. We just want to be heard.”
Now, marking 20 years in the industry, Simphiwe stands at what she calls “a precipice.” While working on a new album, she senses an internal shift. She is expanding her creative expression with a collaborative exhibition, a coffee-table book of unpublished writing, and signature aromatic oils.
If you’ve ever struggled with creative doubt, carried too much for too many, or wondered how to sustain your spirit, this conversation is for you. It’s about survival—but also softness. Rebellion, but also surrender. Holding on to wonder, even when life gives you every reason to let it go.
Simphiwe Dana is more than a voice. She is a vessel. And this episode is not just a story; it is an offering. Listen now.
You can find the latest from Simphiwe on the following social spaces: X | Instagram or listen to her music on Spotify
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Recorded at Spotify Africa Joburg Studio
Show Music by Kweku 'Taygo' Baffoe
Produced by Ayob Vania
1 hr and 29 mins