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SHOW QUOTES

“In the UK, it's 20 quid a bottle. I've always thought about it like some people get paid £20 quid an hour. So you know, if someone's going to give you an hour of their life, bloody, make it good if they're drinking your product, and I honestly believe in that.”

“So you give them two tonnes of raspberry crumble because you're pulling out 90% of the water weight, but you've got 20 tons of flavour.”

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SHOW NOTES

All the way from Australia, in this episode, I got to chat with the inspired mind behind the always unique and never boring NON World Wines. Aaron Trotman is equal parts funny and sincere, and this interview was a pure joy.

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WE CHAT ABOUT

Aaron's story

Amazing flavour combinations

A late-found love of food

International seasonality

Stewed cherry & coffee

Replicating red wine

Made for food?

Aaron, ADHD & alcohol

Hospitality (it's in the name)

Australia, the UK & the US

The NON stopper!

Online and on-trade

What's next for NON?

Parenting while building a brand

The BBQ-Q (& AF draught in Aus)

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TRY NON - uk.non.world // @non.world

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WE ALSO TALK ABOUT:

Botivo*

Heaps Normal

Muri

Sylva

Guinness 0.0*

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“I get emails every week from people saying, oh, ‘I'd love to come and judge, I'd love to learn a bit more about these drinks’. Whilst we’re keen on educating and teaching people. they have to come to us already having some background and some proof that they are making an effort and learning and have experience with these drinks.”

“Progression of the AF space is really interesting. I think if we'd done this competition even four years ago (if there were enough drinks out there then to do this), I think the drinks that would have scored really well then would now be surpassed by almost everything that's coming out now.”

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SHOW NOTES

This episode was a pure delight as I got to hear all about the entire judging process for the World Alcohol-Free Awards – the WAFAs!

Chris and Chrissie don’t hold anything back, making this one not to be missed!

WE CHAT ABOUT

0:35 The WAFAs story

6:37 Categories!

9:21 Who can enter the WAFAs?

13:09 How many entries did you have?

15:32 New & unique drinks

22:25 Judging

30:44 Progression

34:44 Trophy winners

42:54 WAFAs 2025 (+best range winner)

46:00 Going international

49:34 AF is not a zero-sum game

54:26 How to enter for 2025

56:26 The BBQ-Q

VISIT WAFA - WORLDAFAWARDS.COM / @WORLDAFAWARDS

WE ALSO TALK ABOUT:

Free Spirit

Best beer: Ramon

Best spirit: Night Orient

Best halal drink: ASDA

Best cocktail: Bloody Drinks

Best alcohol-free range: Jukes

Best organic: Kombustache

Best wine: Edenvale

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SHOW QUOTES
“We work with a 16th-generation distillery business. We said to them look, how low can we go before we start to lose the full taste experience? So the warm, the mouthfeel, the bite, everything else which you expect from a full-strength gin. And they said 25%.”

“When we designed the product in the first instance, we wanted to go with taste, texture, and tenacity over anything else.”

SHOW NOTES
Director of Session London Dry Gin from Spirit of Bermondsey, Brad Crompton, takes us through the story of their 25% sessionable gin spirit as we discuss where mid-range beverages sit in the modern drinkers' schedule.

WE CHAT ABOUT
- Coming up...
- Session's story
- Brad's story
- Imbibe & the public response
- Why 25%
- Winning awards
- How does it taste?
- Naming Session
- Educating bars & consumers about mid-strength drinks
- Why people are drinking it
- The antidote to zebra-striping
- Changing the nation's cocktail menus
- Questions about using mid-strength drinks
- Traffic light system
- Who is a Session drinker?
- Increasing the range
- The BBQ-Q

AND ALSO ABOUT
Session magazine
Almave*
6Percent
Gen!us*
Small Beer*
Botivo*
Nu Wave*

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